Posted on 10/20/2019 5:37:30 AM PDT by marktwain
Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun – .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot
U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- The .22 shotshell, made by CCI holds 1/15th of an ounce of #12 shot. Based on minimal testing 40 years ago, I considered it near worthless. In the last few years my brother and a friend reported experiences that caused me to reconsider the round. Varmints up to the size of red squirrels were killed more than 20 feet away. A dedicated smoothbore gun was reported to be useful up to 30 feet. Some Internet reports claimed effective results to 15 yards, or 45 feet.
An intriguing claim was that Marlin rifles with microgroove rifling produced noticeably better patterns than other .22 rifles.
Some testing seemed in order. I had recently acquired a Mossberg 702 .22. Its rifling appeared similar to Marlin's microgoove. It was added to the mix. Contemplating the problem of dispersing patterns caused by rifled barrels, I devised an experimental choke system to see if it would make a difference.
I tested the CCI rounds in an old Marlin model 60, the Mossberg 702, a CZ 455, and the CZ 455 with the experimental choke tube.
Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun – .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot
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Sounds like what I want Beta and BootyJudge to do.
The 10 foot patterns shown are very similar to the 30 ones I have gotten using a Remington 514 smoothbore, and especially one with a Routledge bore. Ones out of a Mossberg Targo 42T (which also has a screw on rifled tube for regular ammo) and a Krinko semi auto are a bit more open.
The older crimp type shotshells pattern better in a smoothbore than the CCI capsule types.
I'm gonna have to check out a choke for my old {from the early 60s} Remington bolt action 22.
I've been shooting chippies for years using # 12 shot, but the range is iffy at 20-25 feet.
Anything closer is an absolute kill but those critters are quick and skittish.
When I get over run by chippies I use "The Bucket of Death".
It's a 5 gallon bucket, half filled with water covered with sunflower seeds and a 3' board covered with the seed leading up to the edge of the bucket.
Nature and chippy greed take over, and they jump into "The Bucket of Death".
The most I've ever had to pull out when I "drain the bucket" is eight dead chippies, and that was in a 24 hour period from when I set up the bucket.
Probably not for the absent minded? Would this be too tight for a normal bullet round?
My experience is, using a Winchester .22 semi-auto rifle, is the shot shell does not have enough power to work the action, so it becomes a manual operated rifle, and at about 30 or so feet you get a doughnut shaped pattern due to rifling in the barrel.
How does a 22 shot shell work in a 6” 22lr pistol barrel?
We were overrun in Suburban Virginia a few years ago. We cannot use firearms here, but the bucket of death is great! We caught about a dozen in 1 day. Luckily we only had to use the bucket one summer. The current population is manageable and the cat loves to hunt chippies!
So..Ammoland never heard of the Remington 514?
That was a smoothbore 22cal made for shooting 12 shot.
Back when it was still legal, the Rem 514 was pretty good for frog hunting and shooting rats. Now it is illegal to shoot frogs with anything in MI.
Please,
What’s a ‘chippie?’
Chipmunks?
Cute Sweaters,
I don’t see those
at All around Here.
Now Kangaroo Rats,,,
A small fury rodent called a chipmunk. Remember Alvin and the chipmunks. I was glad to someone else uses the term chippie!
Works great.
I use them in my Ruger Single Six in stainless w/6” barrel to shoot Carpenter bees that want to live in the logs of our log home.
Quite a hoot, good fun, good accuracy training - but max range is about 10 feet........love watching them spiral to the ground after the slightest wound. Friends laugh at me, but it’s fun.
But I also built Carpenter Bee traps that really work well - with half a dozen, I trap over 400 bees a year with them. Like this:
“The older crimp type shotshells pattern better in a smoothbore than the CCI capsule types.”
SO TRUE! But they are hard to find.......
I think I saw a recent ad from Henry advertising a new smoothbore .22 lever gun. Years ago, several manufacturers made limited production runs of these “garden guns”. There might’ve been some smoothbore examples of the old shooting gallery rifles, too.
Grinnie
A Plethora of
“Chippie”
Critter
Gitters!
XLNT.
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