In 1916, General Pershing, of the US Army, lead an American Expeditionary Force into Mexico in pursuit of Pancho Villa, more as support to rally the Mexicans behind the designated leader of Mexico, Venustiano Carranza, than to capture Francisco Villa. Pershing’s troops failed to capture Pancho Villa, and were recalled from Mexico to be redeployed to Europe in the Great War then raging.
Mexico continued its own revolution, and eventually Pancho was named as national leader, only to be later assassinated.
For years Mexico limped along as a failed state, torn by dissent from the largely disenfranchised peasants and by repeated palace revolutions. In the atmosphere of lawlessness and anarchy, it became very profitable to produce, first marijuana, then stronger and stronger drugs, establishing the outlaw drug cartels that have grown to what they have become. There was a ready market in the United States, so that today the international traffic in marijuana and opiods have become one of the major cash cows that fuel the Mexican economy.
These drug cartels are, in many parts of Mexico, the acting government, and either the “legal” government offices are so intimidated they stay shut up in their offices and enclaves, or if they do venture out to do battle with the drug cartels, they are outgunned and outmaneuvered at every turn, then they beat a retreat to the “safe” enclaves.
If there is a place for US Forces to be deployed that would DIRECTLY impact and augment the well-being of the US as a whole, sweeping in as military power to support the local legitimate government is a much better application of power than any Middle East hotspot.
I am not trying to talk anybody into taking military action within Mexico. That is way above my pay grade, but there should be some dialogue already being talked up in the halls of Congress, how to solve the Mexican problem, and not just the border wall, but the WHOLE ball of wax.
Grieve for the plight of poor Mexico - so far away from God, and so close to the United States.
We do drone strikes with Hellfire misiles in Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and countless other countries around the world with and without government permission of the country in question or congress without a war declaration. Why not Mexico right on top of the Cartels themselves? May not happen now but after the first Sinaloa gun battle in down town L.A.?
Wed have to be invited in by Mexico, and thats not likely to happen. It is, unfortunately, a failed state. It cannot provide basic infrastructure necessities for its citizens (such as drinkable water, even in its major cities), it cannot provide law enforcement or even military power protect them from these gangs, it cannot provide military power to protect them from invasion by Central Americans , it cannot do anything to stop the destabilizing influence of Cuba and VZ (which make a lot of money on trans shipping drugs and human smuggling), and its central government is essentially powerless, in addition to being corrupt.
To make it even worse, there was heavy European Marxist influence there in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Dont forget, Trotsky died there, and Marx himself appears in a mural in the National Palace. I believe its 1917 constitution refers to it as a Socialist Republic, or something like that (the constitution was revised a couple of times since then, and much of the overtly Socialist language was removed).
Our invasions certainly didnt help it, but just gave it a rallying cry to stir up anti-Americanism. So I honestly dont know what we can do.
Yes, poor Mexico, irritating though it can be. I can see why Mexicans want to flee, and I just wish there would be some strategy for Mexico to take charge of its own national life and become a good neighbor.
“Grieve for the plight of poor Mexico - so far away from God, and so close to the United States.”
I thought it was the other way around.
There is no legitimate government. Those that don’t take the silver to stay in office get the lead therefor those still in office are already on the cartel side.
The only way for our military to win is to either kill them all and let God sort them out or stay out of Mexico in the first place.
https://youtu.be/00D-GDUW7xw?t=2616 [I start the video at 37:36]
Adams has a beef with China and their fentanyl middlemen in the MexiCartel cartels, because his adopted son died of a fentanyl overdose last year.
Something along the lines of "let God sort them out".
In the atmosphere of lawlessness and anarchy, it became very profitable to produce, first marijuana, then stronger and stronger drugs, establishing the outlaw drug cartels that have grown to what they have become. <<
Kinda like how the “Mafia” evolved in the US...huh?
Americans have become drug addled, and pleasure seeking is a constant....
our young people are weak and ignorant, our middle aged are fat and lazy and our old feel entitled..
this is just the Roman empire destroying itself from within......
the drugsters are just taking advantage of stupid shallow people with little substance or soul.
Interesting history, alloysteel. The violence and murders on the Mexican side of our border are truly horrendous.
And to curtail that is worth every penny we spend on the Wall.
Rat Romney and the Dems, of course, turn a blind eye to an estimated 150,000 murders a year by the cartel on the Mexican side of the border.