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El Chapo's cartel launches military-style assault on Mexican forces
National Post ^ | October 18, 2019

Posted on 10/19/2019 10:12:58 AM PDT by Mat_Helm

The Mexican city of Culiacán descended into terror on Thursday, when soldiers and police launched a raid to capture one of the heirs to the throne of jailed Mexican kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman. As state forces advanced into the city, the Sinaloa Cartel hit back with an array of military-style weapons — and won.

Mexican officials briefly detained Ovidio Guzman, one of Guzman’s sons who has emerged as a leading figure in the cartel after his father was arrested in 2016. But in response the cartel freed dozens of prisoners from a local jail, set numerous vehicles alight and turned Culiacán into a war zone. Soon, Mexican authorities released Guzman.

Security Minister Alfonso Durazo told Reuters Guzman was released to protect lives. Reports, which the government later denied, indicated the cartel took government soldiers hostage as a bargaining chip to secure his freedom. At least eight people were reported killed, including five suspected gang members, in the city of nearly 1 million people.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2019; 201910; abduction; cartel; cartels; culiacan; drugs; elchapo; guzman; hostages; ivan; ivansalazar; localnews; mexicartel; mexico; navolato; ovidioguzman; shootout; sinaloa; sinaloacartel; wod
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To: Mat_Helm

Tell them El Chapo will be shot and his son too if they don’t surrender immediately.


21 posted on 10/19/2019 11:15:29 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: Cold Heart

A technical?


22 posted on 10/19/2019 11:15:53 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: quadrant
You think that's bad - here's the USA

23 posted on 10/19/2019 11:32:19 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: bigbob

24 posted on 10/19/2019 11:32:38 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: EEGator

Armored truck with mounted .50 Browning.


25 posted on 10/19/2019 11:33:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Cold Heart

I saw that picture on FR yesterday. It was a cell phone photo of a man with a Browning M2 .50 caliber machine gun mounted in the back of a pick up truck. I doubt if it was purchased at Dick’ Sporting Goods. I bet soldiers are deserting the Mexican army and taking their weapons with them and joining the cartels.


26 posted on 10/19/2019 11:35:36 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Mat_Helm

[ Failed state of Mexico allows Sinaloa Cartel to control the streets. The shootout in Mexico yesterday proves Rambo Last Blood not so far fetched after all. Build the wall! ]

We must bring more of this to the United States of America!

Signed, W. and Jeb! Boosh.


27 posted on 10/19/2019 11:43:07 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mat_Helm

In 1916, General Pershing, of the US Army, lead an American Expeditionary Force into Mexico in pursuit of Pancho Villa, more as support to rally the Mexicans behind the designated leader of Mexico, Venustiano Carranza, than to capture Francisco Villa. Pershing’s troops failed to capture Pancho Villa, and were recalled from Mexico to be redeployed to Europe in the Great War then raging.

Mexico continued its own revolution, and eventually Pancho was named as national leader, only to be later assassinated.

For years Mexico limped along as a failed state, torn by dissent from the largely disenfranchised peasants and by repeated palace revolutions. In the atmosphere of lawlessness and anarchy, it became very profitable to produce, first marijuana, then stronger and stronger drugs, establishing the outlaw drug cartels that have grown to what they have become. There was a ready market in the United States, so that today the international traffic in marijuana and opiods have become one of the major cash cows that fuel the Mexican economy.

These drug cartels are, in many parts of Mexico, the acting government, and either the “legal” government offices are so intimidated they stay shut up in their offices and enclaves, or if they do venture out to do battle with the drug cartels, they are outgunned and outmaneuvered at every turn, then they beat a retreat to the “safe” enclaves.

If there is a place for US Forces to be deployed that would DIRECTLY impact and augment the well-being of the US as a whole, sweeping in as military power to support the local legitimate government is a much better application of power than any Middle East hotspot.

I am not trying to talk anybody into taking military action within Mexico. That is way above my pay grade, but there should be some dialogue already being talked up in the halls of Congress, how to solve the Mexican problem, and not just the border wall, but the WHOLE ball of wax.

Grieve for the plight of poor Mexico - so far away from God, and so close to the United States.


28 posted on 10/19/2019 11:44:15 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: McGruff; dfwgator; null and void

Badgers? Badgers?

We don’t need no steenkin’ badgers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6TBrfCW54

Oh, “badges”....never mind


29 posted on 10/19/2019 11:45:45 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: bert

Coming to a gunfight soon.


30 posted on 10/19/2019 11:51:55 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SaveFerris; Red Badger; Big Red Badger

We need some badgers...


31 posted on 10/19/2019 11:56:15 AM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: alloysteel

We do drone strikes with Hellfire misiles in Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and countless other countries around the world with and without government permission of the country in question or congress without a war declaration. Why not Mexico right on top of the Cartels themselves? May not happen now but after the first Sinaloa gun battle in down town L.A.?


32 posted on 10/19/2019 11:59:36 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: bigbob

***the bad guys had squad automatic weapons (like the M249 for instance).****

No doubt picked up on their trips to a US Walmart. (sarc/off)


33 posted on 10/19/2019 12:06:11 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: alloysteel

We’d have to be invited in by Mexico, and that’s not likely to happen. It is, unfortunately, a failed state. It cannot provide basic infrastructure necessities for its citizens (such as drinkable water, even in its major cities), it cannot provide law enforcement or even military power protect them from these gangs, it cannot provide military power to protect them from invasion by Central Americans , it cannot do anything to stop the destabilizing influence of Cuba and VZ (which make a lot of money on trans shipping drugs and human smuggling), and its central government is essentially powerless, in addition to being corrupt.

To make it even worse, there was heavy European Marxist influence there in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Don’t forget, Trotsky died there, and Marx himself appears in a mural in the National Palace. I believe its 1917 constitution refers to it as a Socialist Republic, or something like that (the constitution was revised a couple of times since then, and much of the overtly Socialist language was removed).

Our invasions certainly didn’t help it, but just gave it a rallying cry to stir up anti-Americanism. So I honestly don’t know what we can do.

Yes, poor Mexico, irritating though it can be. I can see why Mexicans want to flee, and I just wish there would be some strategy for Mexico to take charge of its own national life and become a good neighbor.


34 posted on 10/19/2019 12:11:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Mat_Helm

That’s a .50 Caliber stolen from the Mexican army or sold to them by someone in the Mexican army..


35 posted on 10/19/2019 12:21:02 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

The M2 Browning “MA Duece” most likely came from another South American country, the Mexican Army arsenal, or from Obama and Erick Holders Fast and Furious!


36 posted on 10/19/2019 12:25:57 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: null and void

They have to be steenkin’ badgers!


37 posted on 10/19/2019 12:34:47 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Maybe they went to Dick’s Sporting Goods.

Dick’s Sporting Goods is saving the world!


38 posted on 10/19/2019 12:36:25 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: minnesota_bound

Don’t forget Hancock Park, Silver Lake and Santa Monica. The immigrants are always welcomed there as maids, gardeners, nannies, etc.


39 posted on 10/19/2019 12:38:49 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: alloysteel

“Grieve for the plight of poor Mexico - so far away from God, and so close to the United States.”

I thought it was the other way around.


40 posted on 10/19/2019 12:43:17 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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