Posted on 10/16/2019 2:54:53 PM PDT by rintintin
In a bipartisan rebuke to President Donald Trump, the US House of Representatives has overwhelmingly passed a resolution condemning his decision to pull United States troops out of Syria, abandoning US allies in the region as Turkish troops have moved in.
The 354-60 vote on the resolution Wednesday was largely symbolic, but it signaled the widespread disapproval among lawmakers for Trump’s latest controversial foreign policy move. It came as fighting continued in northeastern Syria between Turkey and Kurdish fighters, who have been a key US ally in fighting the terror group ISIS.
(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...
Exactly. Let’s have Congress declare war against Syria. Otherwise, how can you defend positioning US forces inside a sovereign country whose government does not want us there? The recognized government of Syria has authorized the Iranian and Russian presence but not ours. Can Congress force the Commander in Chief to station troops in a hostile country using a mere resolution? What is the exit strategy?
Exactly.
No more “police actions” or “authorization to use force” resolutions.
Get your ass on record.
Congress didn’t authorize Obama to go in there in the first place.
Every Trump voter needs to watch Trump’s answer today at the presser;
https://youtu.be/HMICO8tp3wA?t=1205
Are all these guys greeting a piece of the action to keep forces in the ME? Amazing.
These same want us to protect a border 7000 miles away, yet they will not protect our own sovereign border.
And today.
Sent him a little love note.
My swamp critter is pretty swampy for a freshman.
Two of the sponsors were “Republican”
Rep. McCaul, Michael T. [R-TX-10]*
Rep. Rooney, Francis [R-FL-19]*
All members of the House GOP leadership team were among the 129 Republicans who supported the resolution. A few notable Republican members opposed it, including the leaders of the pro-Trump House Freedom Caucus; Rep. Tom Reed (N.Y.), co-chair of the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus; and Rep. Greg Pence (Ind.), the vice president’s brother.
I am sick of the lie that the Kurds were our allies. We paid them, they were mercenaries. The Republican leadership team needs to be primaried one by one. This hog wash about America not having allies because we are not fighting battles that have raged for several hundred years beneath contempt. We know who we can trust now and who is most likely corrupt.
Politicians don’t care, there kids aren’t getting killed in the half was military actions. No their kids are getting cushy jobs in foreign countries.
Utter meaningless PR stunts.Just another day in our Do Nothing at all Usefull Democrat Fascist Congress. Yo bozos. How about you get busy and do YOUR JOBS instead of trying to tell the President how to do his? Where is a bill on Border Security? Immigration Reform? Voter ID? A Balanced Federal Budget? Legal Reform? in fact where have you bozos done anything at all for the last 2 years? You bozos so gung ho? They declare war clowns. THAT IS your job Morons.
“By a vote of 354-60, we oppose the lack of war, but are too nutless to actually declare it, so THERE!” (also, we don’t know who we are supposed to be fighting, but dangit, we congress critters believe we should be blowing something up at all times, just for general purposes - or for General Dynamics, either one.)
I tweeted my thanks, to Dr Neal Dunn (fl) and disappointment to Anthony Gonzalez (oh).
Yep. The war whore Pelosi can either do her job or STFU and let the adult handle things.
Drat!
My usually good Rep treated this as a meaningless vote and went for it.
Hope he got a big payoff.
Drat!
My usually good Rep treated this as a meaningless vote and went for it.
Hope he got a big payoff.
Thank you for the link. “Wow”. Not only was the substance of his response excellent, it re-emphasized how the press disrespects him as POTUS. He has really grown in the job - very presidential, unlike how the media mis-characterizes him. He is very confident in his decisions for America.
If they are so into this Syrian adventure, why not vote a declaration of war?
HOWARD KURTZ: Mollie, as you know, there is a whole slew of conservative journalists and commentators, and you have Lindsey Graham, Nikki Haley and other Republicans sharply criticizing the president on Syria, given the tremendous amount of suport they normally give Donald Trump, what do you make of this?
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: I'm not sure I would agree that this caucus normally gives a tremendous amount of support to President Trump. I would say there's a grotesque over-representation of a certain foreign policy approach in our pundit class and in our newspapers. Donald Trump did run on campaign to get out of Syria, he was elected to do that, there's a rejection of this will from the people to not have such entanglements and you see that so much in the newspapers and in our TV coverage.
President Obama, 16 times said we would never have boots on the ground in Syria, and yet Donald Trump gets elected saying he will get us out of the situation. We're 3 years into the presidency and it is finally happening, and you don't hear the voices articulating why that's important, why the American people want this.
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: We are seeing a lot of commentary from a lot of people instead of doing straight news. There's an avenue here, we don't have good reporting on the ground and that can make it hard and we are getting input and this is something we have seen across many media outlets, we don't have good on-the-ground reporting on this. But it is also true that we need to have a much better discussion of what our aims are when we get involved in conflicts. We did not have the aim of defending this, you know, this particular group of YPG fighters in their battles with Erdogan.
GILLIAN TURNER: We did. We had a long-standing agreement with them for close to a decade and they were helping us wipe out ISIS.
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: No, absolutely not. We had shared interest to take down the ISIS caliphate's military abilities and we accomplished that.
GILLIAN TURNER: We had a military alliance.
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: And the American people -- yes, based on shared interest in defeating ISIS and that's what the American people understood, and they weren't even particularly supportive of that. The idea that we would then change, move the goal posts, and have all sorts of different agenda items there is not something that American people signed onto, and if people want that they should say that is what they want and get the American people to sign off on it.
It's just too delicious. President Trump ordered U.S. special forces out of Syria to a chorus of howling Democrats and all the old, experienced hands at State and, supposedly, the military. (I had doubts as well.) Democrats yelled that all hell was about to break loose. The Pentagon pulled its hair. Europe trembled and blanched. The Mideast girded for something awful....Excerpted from an American Thinker article, "Trump's Syria plan reveals a master strategist in the White House," by Richard Jack Rail.
Negotiations would ever happen only if our troops stayed.
Trump saw the situation differently. As beautifully laid out by Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, removing our guys would leave the intransigent Turks vulnerable to an alliance against them of their many enemies in the region. This thought didn't occur to Turkish president Recep Erdoğan, who at first seemed delighted that we were leaving and promptly dispatched his troops into Syria, as everybody had predicted he would.
AT's Thomas Lifson reports that ABC News was so appalled that it ran footage from a Kentucky gun range video, called it the Turkish invasion, and heaped abuse on Trump for atrocities committed against Kurds.
Not so fast, fellas. The actual result hasn't been quite what everyone expected. Erdoğan suddenly understood the box he was in when Trump authorized Treasury secretary Mnuchin to prepare sanctions against Turkey. By themselves, sanctions haven't succeeded much in that part of the world. But in concert with the departure of the U.S., they became a scary signal that Turkey was all by her lonesome. Having steadfastly refused to negotiate, Erdoğan now nervously rang up Trump and asked for an emergency conference. Trump sent Vice President Pence and national security adviser O'Brien to mediate negotiations with the Kurds.
These are the long sought negotiations, brought about by U.S. troops leaving.
Yes, and as Trump explained in his presser, not every Lindsay Graham can give a good reason to stay there.
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