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To: Navy Patriot

Wasn’t the gun reported by the only witness in the room - the 8YO child?

If so, we received critical information after the officer had been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion and has already left his job.

What is the actual truth I wonder. Why was this information withheld while the public was informed of just the kill?

I can only think we should dismiss initial reports by any MSM outlet for a few days. We never get the full truth.


4 posted on 10/16/2019 3:31:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I can only think we should dismiss initial reports by any MSM outlet for a few days. We never get the full truth.

We should ALWAYS dismiss the MSM reports, and we never get the full truth.

The Fake News Media went full political from the first word on this story, the second sentence was effectively "White male cop kills Black Grandma in her home".

If the races were reversed there would be no mention of 'em in the article and it would read: "Police forced to shoot gun wielding woman".

Obviously the cop thought he could just kill anyone he wanted to.

10 posted on 10/16/2019 3:51:23 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Caipirabob

Officer Aaron Dean, if he was an honorable man, should have immediately eaten his own gun after what he did.

His body cam clearly showed he did not identify himself and he was skulking around her house after dark.

In Texas, citizens are black-letter-law specifically allowed to use force up to and including deadly force to confront unknown trespassers on their property in the night time. It doesn’t matter if that lady had a f***ing flamethrower, RPG, or claymore mine - if she legally possessed it, she is legally allowed to use it to defend herself against an unknown trespasser after dark. The cop was already in the wrong, period, full stop. The body cam footage confirms it. The cop was not serving a warrant, he was there on a welfare check. There was no reason for him to approach the house stealthily. There was no reason for him to circle the house. There was no reason for him to shoot the occupant who quite legally was investigating the unknown trespasser on her property.

Oh, and if she’d shot the cop? Texas law, again, black-letter-specifically, says that you CAN use deadly force against police officers who pull exactly this crap. Texas Penal Code section 9.31(c)(2) and (d), plus subsequent sections. Section 9.32 does NOT exempt wayward police conducting themselves illegally from having deadly force used upon them.


14 posted on 10/16/2019 4:03:23 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Caipirabob

He does need to be convicted. He committed murder, plain in simple

This undisciplined and incompetent idiot was sent on a welfare check because someone’s door was open. Instead of calling into the house to see if everyone was okay...he prowled around the house and shot the resident who looked outside to see who the prowler was.

This wasn’t an accident. Because when he didn’t call through the front door as he should have he initiated this. You don’t skip steps in procedure, and jump right ahead to the skulking in the dark with weapons drawn part. You don’t finally identify yourself to the resident as you are pulling the trigger.


19 posted on 10/16/2019 4:14:43 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Caipirabob

“Why was this information withheld while the public was informed of just the kill?”

White cop, dead person of color. There is a script to follow.
They must shape the public’s opinion like always.


53 posted on 10/16/2019 4:59:05 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: Caipirabob
I can only think we should dismiss initial reports by any MSM outlet for a few days. We never get the full truth.

Not from them.

74 posted on 10/16/2019 6:23:59 AM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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If you watched the video, nothing was ever announced, the idiot officer was sneaking around the garage with a flashlight. If it happened at my house, I would have had a gun out!

What kind of an idiot goes on a wellness check and doesn’t knock on the damn door and go wandering around the garage with a flashlight at 2am and doesn’t expect to get shot?


78 posted on 10/16/2019 6:35:17 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: Caipirabob
What is the actual truth I wonder.

While the usual groups are taking sides, largely based on race, take race out of the equation and look at the timeline of events.

A neighbor called the police for a welfare check because he saw his neighbors door open at 2:30 am.

They haven't released the 911 call so we don't know exactly what the cops were told. Did the 911 operator change 'welfare check' to 'suspicious activity', 'possible burglary in progress'?

The cops arrived. Instead of going to the open door, knocking, or ringing the doorbell, they instead walked around the house.

Apparently the woman was playing video games with her nephew, she heard a noise, and took out her gun. Based on the Castle Doctrine she had ever right to reach for her gun to protect herself, her nephew, and her property. Since the police didn't identify themselves, she had no way of knowing they were 'the good guys'.

The cop looks in the window, doesn't identify himself, shouts at her, and then shoots.

If it's 2:30am and you hear a noise outside, is your first thought, 'it must be the police'?

The woman acted in her own defense as anyone would.

I'm not calling the cop a murderer. However, protocol wasn't followed. The cops didn't knock or ring the door bell. The 911 call only asked for a welfare check. The cops never identified themselves and they shot within seconds of seeing a person; not even a 'suspect' (there was no reported suspect). There was no reported crime. This was simply a 'welfare check'.

The key may be in the 911 call and how the call was relayed to the cops investigating.

84 posted on 10/16/2019 6:45:06 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Caipirabob

the officers wee walking around the house with flashlights. I and anyone in their right mind would also have a gun pointed at them. The officers never identified themselves before opening fire. The subject officer had the quick reaction to turn his body com away from the action BEFORE he opened fire.

This lady was absolutely in the right , defending her life and property. The officers created this high risk situation and killed the lady as a result.


115 posted on 10/16/2019 12:35:50 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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