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Atatiana Jefferson pointed gun at window before Fort Worth officer killed her, nephew said
Dallas News ^ | 10/15/19 | Dana Branham

Posted on 10/15/2019 12:39:14 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

A murder warrant for Aaron Dean, the Fort Worth officer who killed Atatiana Jefferson, tells what led up to the shooting from the perspective of her 8-year-old nephew, who was in the room with her when she was shot.

The boy told a forensic interviewer that he and his aunt were playing video games together about 2:30 a.m. Saturday when she heard noises outside. She took her handgun from her purse and pointed it “toward the window” before she was shot, the nephew said, according to the arrest-warrant affidavit.

The 8-year-old saw his aunt fall to the ground. Jefferson, 28, was pronounced dead at 3:05 a.m.

Interim Police Chief Ed Kraus said at a news conference Tuesday that it “makes sense that she would have a gun if she felt that she was being threatened or there was someone in the backyard.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aarondean; atatianajefferson; cops; fortworth; lookwhohatescops; police; texas
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To: VeniVidiVici
Cop saw a gun.

And? wasn't he sneakily quietly prowling outside peering into a window?

41 posted on 10/15/2019 1:41:46 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: yesthatjallen

Another perspective-— what if the cops get the call to check to see if something happened to this neighbor and the front door is open and the cops see it open. Then the cop sees a person (it’s dark) and that person is pointing a gun at them thru window. Cop may assume the person with the gun just broke into the house...

not saying any of this is true, just another perspective


42 posted on 10/15/2019 1:42:08 PM PDT by terart
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To: Darteaus94025
They’re trained like they’re MPs in the Baghdad Green Zone. Community police officer is out; MP is in.

Don't know about this address but there are neighborhoods in Fort Worth that are just as dangerous as the Baghdad Green Zone. A lone police officer sent into one of those areas would be on high alert. It would probably be prudent to wait until his trial before convicting him.

43 posted on 10/15/2019 1:44:08 PM PDT by etcb
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To: terart
Cop may assume the person with the gun just broke into the house...

I hope they don't train cops to make that assumption, they do train cops right?

44 posted on 10/15/2019 1:45:54 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Manly Warrior

If I hear things going bump in the night, I grab a gun to go investigate. I guess if it is a cop wandering in the backyard, I ought to shoot him before he can kill me.

If a cop goes wandering around in someone’s back yard at 2:30 AM, he is setting himself up to shoot someone in “self-defense”. I reckon the cop needs to be held responsible for CAUSING the situation.


45 posted on 10/15/2019 1:45:54 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Linda Frances

I know what you mean, but that’s not remotely relevant to the case at hand.


46 posted on 10/15/2019 1:46:38 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: yesthatjallen

Poor training and compromised test standards usually manifest in situations like this.


47 posted on 10/15/2019 1:47:56 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: etcb

I read somewhere that the auntie lived next door to a mosque.

Imagine that. I’d sooner live next door to a Bandido bar, a cat house, a meth house and the local democratic county chairman.

Yeesh.


48 posted on 10/15/2019 1:47:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

She didn’t call the police. Her neighbor did when he noticed the front door was open.


49 posted on 10/15/2019 1:49:16 PM PDT by Nachoman (Following victory, its best to reload.)
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To: yesthatjallen

These kinds of stories always bring out divergent points of view here. I wonder if that’s the case at the rat sites?


50 posted on 10/15/2019 1:51:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: yesthatjallen
I don't know if it mentions this in the article (ad blocker roadblock), but here is what the chief had to say about it. BTW, the murderer is out on bail, too.

"At a press conference Tuesday, Chief Ed Kraus grew emotional when describing the morale of the police department. He says "officers are hurting" because of the fatal shooting and that he has not encountered an officer who disagrees with the decision to arrest Aaron Dean."

51 posted on 10/15/2019 1:54:33 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
Is it possible that they could make an 8 year old say anything during interrogation?

Of course they could. And they most likely did.

The police video of the gun on the nightstand contradicts the testimony of the child. Unless we are supposed to believe that the mother put it back there to "tidy up" after she was shot dead.

52 posted on 10/15/2019 1:56:46 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: Starstruck

We have grandchildren over for the weekend. 2:30 am is not that unusual for video games. “

Eight year Olds?


53 posted on 10/15/2019 1:56:59 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: yesthatjallen

“It looks like the defense is going to be ‘she had a gun’. “

The cop committed murder.

The fact the victim considered defending herself notwithstanding.

Murder.


54 posted on 10/15/2019 1:57:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 1Old Pro

“I hope they don’t train cops to make that assumption, they do train cops right?”

LOL agree... I just wonder if being newer on the force and seeing someone pointing a gun...who the heck knows. I am glad I don’t have to sit on that jury because if it was a very stupid accident then 2 peoples lives have been utterly destroyed not counting their extended family.


55 posted on 10/15/2019 1:57:51 PM PDT by terart
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Remember the good old days when police used bull horns to call to people inside houses and cops spoke slowly and clearly into them from a distance? If you heard a bull horn you thought “oh, that is the police,” not “oh, some thief or rapist is trying to get in and I gotta get my gun.”

This is a terrible thing for all concerned. Perhaps cops should have to undergo some sort of training from the civilian perspective for cases like these, so they can see what a civilian sees and hears when an officer filled with adrenaline shows up unexpectedly and fears the worst. Most of the time on the cop shows you cannot even understand what they are yelling and too starled to follow directions... what if a person is deaf or disabled? They should experience a few “visits.”


56 posted on 10/15/2019 1:58:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Linda Frances
Come on. Really?

Last time I checked, we still live in a free country and you should be able to do what you want in your home at any hour without getting murdered for it.

Who knows why the kid was up in the middle of the night. Maybe the kid couldn't sleep and his aunt was playing games with him so he would get sleepy and go back to bed. It was Saturday and not a school night. But it shouldn't matter. They weren't cookin' meth or dealing drugs when this happen. They were minding their own business.

Why do people like you keep turning this thing around to make it look the kid or the victim are the guilty ones?

The appropriate question should be, why, if these police officers were called out to this house to check on the welfare of the occupant, not to check on a crime, why didn't they just knock on the front door and ask the occupant if everything was okay?

Instead this officer who shot her didn't identify himself as a policeman at all and snuck around the back of the house and shot this lady in her own home through an open window.

This police officer is the one responsible for this, not the victim or her nephew.

57 posted on 10/15/2019 1:59:43 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Envisioning

Exactly!
That was my first thought - I would have one handy as well if I thought someone was outside of my home snooping around.


58 posted on 10/15/2019 2:01:48 PM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Mastador1

The open door could indicate a burglary in progress. The cops would want to catch the perps in the act, so they might not want to announce their presence outside the house.

We will have to wait for all the facts to come out.


59 posted on 10/15/2019 2:02:26 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Karl Spooner

I was reading elsewhere what the cop did immediately after the murder.

1. He quit his job. Before he was fired.
2. He lawyered up. He refused to answer questions without his attorney present. They claimed he refused to “cooperate”.

In other words he followed the book on what to do if the cops arrest you.


60 posted on 10/15/2019 2:02:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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