Posted on 10/15/2019 12:39:14 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
And? wasn't he sneakily quietly prowling outside peering into a window?
Another perspective-— what if the cops get the call to check to see if something happened to this neighbor and the front door is open and the cops see it open. Then the cop sees a person (it’s dark) and that person is pointing a gun at them thru window. Cop may assume the person with the gun just broke into the house...
not saying any of this is true, just another perspective
Don't know about this address but there are neighborhoods in Fort Worth that are just as dangerous as the Baghdad Green Zone. A lone police officer sent into one of those areas would be on high alert. It would probably be prudent to wait until his trial before convicting him.
I hope they don't train cops to make that assumption, they do train cops right?
If I hear things going bump in the night, I grab a gun to go investigate. I guess if it is a cop wandering in the backyard, I ought to shoot him before he can kill me.
If a cop goes wandering around in someone’s back yard at 2:30 AM, he is setting himself up to shoot someone in “self-defense”. I reckon the cop needs to be held responsible for CAUSING the situation.
I know what you mean, but that’s not remotely relevant to the case at hand.
Poor training and compromised test standards usually manifest in situations like this.
I read somewhere that the auntie lived next door to a mosque.
Imagine that. I’d sooner live next door to a Bandido bar, a cat house, a meth house and the local democratic county chairman.
Yeesh.
She didn’t call the police. Her neighbor did when he noticed the front door was open.
These kinds of stories always bring out divergent points of view here. I wonder if that’s the case at the rat sites?
"At a press conference Tuesday, Chief Ed Kraus grew emotional when describing the morale of the police department. He says "officers are hurting" because of the fatal shooting and that he has not encountered an officer who disagrees with the decision to arrest Aaron Dean."
Of course they could. And they most likely did.
The police video of the gun on the nightstand contradicts the testimony of the child. Unless we are supposed to believe that the mother put it back there to "tidy up" after she was shot dead.
We have grandchildren over for the weekend. 2:30 am is not that unusual for video games. “
Eight year Olds?
“It looks like the defense is going to be ‘she had a gun’. “
The cop committed murder.
The fact the victim considered defending herself notwithstanding.
Murder.
“I hope they don’t train cops to make that assumption, they do train cops right?”
LOL agree... I just wonder if being newer on the force and seeing someone pointing a gun...who the heck knows. I am glad I don’t have to sit on that jury because if it was a very stupid accident then 2 peoples lives have been utterly destroyed not counting their extended family.
Remember the good old days when police used bull horns to call to people inside houses and cops spoke slowly and clearly into them from a distance? If you heard a bull horn you thought “oh, that is the police,” not “oh, some thief or rapist is trying to get in and I gotta get my gun.”
This is a terrible thing for all concerned. Perhaps cops should have to undergo some sort of training from the civilian perspective for cases like these, so they can see what a civilian sees and hears when an officer filled with adrenaline shows up unexpectedly and fears the worst. Most of the time on the cop shows you cannot even understand what they are yelling and too starled to follow directions... what if a person is deaf or disabled? They should experience a few “visits.”
Last time I checked, we still live in a free country and you should be able to do what you want in your home at any hour without getting murdered for it.
Who knows why the kid was up in the middle of the night. Maybe the kid couldn't sleep and his aunt was playing games with him so he would get sleepy and go back to bed. It was Saturday and not a school night. But it shouldn't matter. They weren't cookin' meth or dealing drugs when this happen. They were minding their own business.
Why do people like you keep turning this thing around to make it look the kid or the victim are the guilty ones?
The appropriate question should be, why, if these police officers were called out to this house to check on the welfare of the occupant, not to check on a crime, why didn't they just knock on the front door and ask the occupant if everything was okay?
Instead this officer who shot her didn't identify himself as a policeman at all and snuck around the back of the house and shot this lady in her own home through an open window.
This police officer is the one responsible for this, not the victim or her nephew.
Exactly!
That was my first thought - I would have one handy as well if I thought someone was outside of my home snooping around.
The open door could indicate a burglary in progress. The cops would want to catch the perps in the act, so they might not want to announce their presence outside the house.
We will have to wait for all the facts to come out.
I was reading elsewhere what the cop did immediately after the murder.
1. He quit his job. Before he was fired.
2. He lawyered up. He refused to answer questions without his attorney present. They claimed he refused to “cooperate”.
In other words he followed the book on what to do if the cops arrest you.
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