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Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.
The New York Times ^ | October 14th, 2019 | David E. Sanger

Posted on 10/14/2019 3:44:39 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner

How true! The sad thing is even supposedly intelligent people like Michael savages is on the same page as he has the same headline on his website.


101 posted on 10/14/2019 5:11:33 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: dp0622

Depends on what faction of Kurds they are talking about.

You do know that the PKK Kurds are communist? And that they have been fighting the Turks for decades?

I would say let them kill each other off and support the other free Kurdish factions.

Friggan mess is what it is.


102 posted on 10/14/2019 5:14:09 PM PDT by crz
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To: Mariner
a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace

Why Mrs. Jackson I were just discussing this very thing, noting how peace had broken out all across the middle east due to the policies of Trump's predecessors, and now, Trump goes weak, and our staunchest ally, Turkey under that great democratic leader Erdogan - may God give him the Nobel Peach Prize - suddenly turns murderous. /s/

103 posted on 10/14/2019 5:17:33 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: SecAmndmt
Any America-first policy, pro-Constitution policy, pro-family policy is negative from the establishment’s point of view.

Wrong angle. You think it is ideology it's not. You need to ask the question - how was the deep state raking in the moolah from this arrangement and how did Trump disturb that.

Quid Pro and runt quid pro have shown us the way. It's about the money. Simply about the money. Nothing but the money.

104 posted on 10/14/2019 5:20:11 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: crz

I HAVE started to consider that the past few days.

It is something I forgot.

But even if I didn’t give a damn about the Kurds, ISIS prisoners ARE getting away.

And that always ends up screwing our boys in the end.

What I don’t get is Trump KNOWS Turkey would be HAPPY if ISIS prisoners escaped. Hell they supposed them with free passage and buying oil.

He’s not ONE to MISS something like that.

Perhaps the Turks agreed to not attack the prisoner areas and then reneged and that is why Trump put out such a forceful statement today.

The days of Ataturk are LONG GONE


105 posted on 10/14/2019 5:23:24 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: dp0622

Look dp0622...this shit with the GD Turks has gone on for years and years.

From the Armenian genocide to the deal that the nations reneged on during/after WW1.

The Kurds were promised a country. They got screwed and ever since its been an ongoing battle.

The Kurd history plants them right smack where they control those areas. From Persia to the Med sea.

The friggan whole GD area should be nuked so the rest of the world can have peace and quiet.

There is no safe political solution to that area. NONE.


106 posted on 10/14/2019 5:31:00 PM PDT by crz
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To: Mariner

Why were these nukes allowed to remain in Turkey? Erdogan has been a radical Islamist for some time. You do remember the attempted coup several years ago to put stability back into the country.


107 posted on 10/14/2019 5:32:08 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Without freedom of speech we have no democracy and will lose all our freedoms.)
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To: dp0622
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan

I know...its wiki, but it is a pretty good overview of that region.

BTW..that area was also know as part of Scythia where the Israelites were taken by the Assyrians after the Northern Kingdom fell to the Assyrian Empire.

108 posted on 10/14/2019 5:43:04 PM PDT by crz
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To: Mariner
This is The NY Times.

Not worth reading or posting.

109 posted on 10/14/2019 5:45:38 PM PDT by daler
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To: Drango

I have no problem with the United States going to war from time to time when there are national interests at stake. I have supported it enthusiastically. That said, these actions should not last forever. The Middle East has been a warmongering sewer for millennia. Even the great Barack Obama couldn’t stop it. Pull out and save lives of gallant American soldiers. If regional powers have no interest in stopping war there, why in hell should we care?


110 posted on 10/14/2019 5:48:32 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: crz

Didn’t know some of that.

Thanks


111 posted on 10/14/2019 5:52:00 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: dp0622

Here is another eye opener. AND I am not as religious as some and more than others but...

Its PDF. It follows scriptures if you are up on that.

https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/The-Location-of-Magog-Meshech-and-Tubal-1.pdf

In the later days..there will be wars and rumors of wars. Man will be against man, child against parent..etc “paraphrasing” etc.

I hope this does not offend you? But, I look to scriptures historically as well as spiritually. We all have to.


112 posted on 10/14/2019 6:02:06 PM PDT by crz
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To: Mariner

NYT = aid and comfort to the enemy.


113 posted on 10/14/2019 6:09:35 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: dp0622
What I see happening is that Turkey-Meshech and Tubal, Gomer etc. Move south, which brings Russia into the conflict since Russia has hated the Turks in the past and Russia will defend its warm water Navy facility in Syria. Also, The Red Chinese see an opportunity and moves its vast armies west through Iran into the region.

What happens then, is somehow Israel gets involved and since the whole dam place is Islamic, they unite and we get into it by defending Israel. FULL BLOWN World War and it becomes nuclear.

114 posted on 10/14/2019 6:10:27 PM PDT by crz
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Update:
It's almost as if President Trump has some experience with the art of the deal or somethin'.

115 posted on 10/14/2019 6:10:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Mariner

Calamity? How many people whom he is sworn to protect died?


116 posted on 10/14/2019 6:16:25 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: crz

Why would it offend me?

I’ve seen a bunch of those names on this board and never knew what the heck they were referring to.

Now I know.

It’s fascinating stuff.

Thanks.


117 posted on 10/14/2019 6:28:26 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: mass55th

Of that I have no doubt!


118 posted on 10/14/2019 6:36:38 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: dp0622

History repeats ya know?

Hey! What wine goes good with Angel hair with that Italian sausage on top?

I am dumb when it comes to those types of things.


119 posted on 10/14/2019 7:06:00 PM PDT by crz
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL

Funny that the great NY Times didn’t mention anything about that. :)


120 posted on 10/14/2019 7:11:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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