Posted on 10/14/2019 3:22:41 AM PDT by Helicondelta
As I said above in post #54, I see no evidence of that yet. Turkish AF is operating without opposition, bombing military, civilian and infrastructure. Looks like SAA will soon enter Manbij and Ayn Issa, where they are likely to come into contact with Turkish backed fighters. Then we will see if Turkey is willing to fight Assad, and if Russia will play any role. I think Russia stays clear.
We should all be absolutely fine with that outcome.
I am.
A port in the Med backs Russia. That is what they want and that was my point.
Tartus is far south of the contested area and not under any threat. It would be a massive escalation and a much wider war if Turkey were threatening as far south as Tartus.
Syria dumped all their German Panzers and WW2 equipment since the 1967 war, many of them *because* of the war and their ineffectiveness. It’s been 50 years and the last time anyone saw a Panzer in Syrian colors was sometime in the 80s. The oldest thing in their active inventory list these days is the PT-76B light amphibious tank and none of those have been observed in the current hostilities; this probably indicates that they have no serviceable units at this time and may have disposed of them. They have thousands of T-55s, T-62s, T-72s and under 100 T-90 variants.
Interesting, thanks. The WW2 tanks fighting each other in 1967 still gets my attention.
You are right. One World Progressives and Liberals have introduced a new concept to dilute traditional concepts of a nation’s sovereignty.
One such word is “Main influence.”
The USA has no business in Syria, or in Turkey for that matter, unless ISIS usng Syria as a base again organizes attacks on the USA and its various international stations of diplomacy and military.Then we just blow them up again, if necessary, without taking any prisoners.I do not think that Syria, Iraq,Russia or Iran will allow that evolution again.
Turkey needs to be removed from NATO. It now has joined the Russia/Iran axis of power.
But is it also true ISIS is now on the loose and we have 174 dead Kurds?
Good Kurds or bad Kurds? All Kurds are not equal
Do the Turks care? Anyone fighting the fascist Islamist regime of Erdogan is good in my books.
OK..... here’s the deal.
There are Kurds in turkey that have been more or less at war since the end of the ottoman empire in say 1918 and the partitioning of the region by France and UK.
The partitioning payed no attention to ethnic populations and divided the territory on geographical lines. The result was that the kurds were split into Turkey, Syria and Iraq. The syrian and Iraqui kurds have more or less in association with Sunni Arabs have captured territiory that will probably turn out to be a new nation.
The Turkish Kurds and Turkey will not reach agreement. Thus all Kurds are at risk because of the Turkish minority.
What is coming, eventually, is that Turkey will allow the new nation if the Turkish Kurds are allowed or forced to move into the new nation.
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