Posted on 10/11/2019 6:36:35 AM PDT by AU72
The People’s Republic of California is at it again; through unelected state officials, California is severing ties to ham radio repeater owners throughout the state, jeopardizing the lives of millions of Californians who depend on these repeaters to operate during emergencies.
Last month, repeater operators were sent emails telling them the State would no longer allow them to operate repeaters on public land without paying substantial rental fees. In the letter sent by CAL FIRE, the state claims Ham operators no longer provide a benefit to the state or public safety. They claimed that “constantly changing technological advances” has made Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.
Keep in mind; this is a state that is currently shutting power down in 34 of its counties because its infrastructure cannot handle 20-30 mph winds without risking wildfire breakouts throughout the state.
What is infuriating here is people are going to die because of this decision. It costs the State of California nothing to allow these repeaters on public land; in fact, Ham Radio Operators pay for the equipment and maintain the equipment at their own cost. Ham Radio operators also make nothing from running these radio repeaters; they do so as a service to the public to help ensure the public’s safety during natural disasters and emergencies.
Here is a good explanation of what’s going on from a Ham Radio operator in California
While paying billions of dollars a year to cater to illegal immigrants and welfare bums, California is now targeting hard-working Ham operators who provide critical and vital Disaster Emergency Communications. These people have absolutely lost their minds!
There is a nationwide effort to Kill Ham Radio
My off the grid ham radio
Even most Hams haven’t taken notice, but in 2012 the federal government launched FirstNet, a public safety nationwide broadband network that many in the government think will make Ham radio operators obsolete. In reality, its nothing more than a $47 Billion Federal Cell Phone Network that itself is already obsolete. In fact, it needs LOTS of infrastructure to function, and it creates multiple, single points of failure.
The real story here is Ham Radio is a threat to the government. We make them look stupid! They spend billions on infrastructure that breaks down, while we can literally take a hundred bucks in equipment, some random wires, and in minutes set up a radio system that can communicate with anyone in the world. Hell, I’ve used my kid’s slinky, some Television Coax Cable, and a solar battery system to build a mobile rig that I’ve used to talk to people around the world — You can check out the Radio Rig Here.
They don’t want the public to realize that we can take care of ourselves, and do a much better and cheaper job doing so!
Here's exactly what it hurts, and you'd do well to read up on your radio history:
Your 11m band was carved out of 10m and taken away from us licensed ham operators and given to you "freebanders."
And now you come back wanting more?! Not just no but HELL NO. Study, get your license and do it the legal way. Period.
Nice story!
Lol, the most powerful shall survive. And this is how it self regulates in the end. :)
Just like someone asked, “ever listen to channel 6 on CB?” Yep, the strongest survive, and many on there are ham operators with 1200 watt radios. But it is still available without restrictions for those who can indeed use it.
Again... Not the whole spectrum, just one thin slice of a frequency that will carry more than 10 miles.
There is no such thing as a 1200 watt radio (Ham or your cb) and you just showed how little you really know.
” Your 11m band was carved out of 10m and taken away from us licensed ham operators and given to you “freebanders.”
And now you come back wanting more?! Not just no but HELL NO. Study, get your license and do it the legal way. Period.”
Yeah I know, You won’t give up one millimeter of all those wave lengths. “keep it in the family” as they say...
“There is no such thing as a 1200 watt radio (Ham or your cb) and you just showed how little you really know.”
I’m calling BS operator and you know better. You are fishing to test my knowledge. I absolutely know folks who do indeed own these. lol
One quibble: they can triangulate and track ONLY signals that they can receive. Low wattage point-to-point tactical communication is exactly NOT the sort of signal that they are set up for.
An important distinction, you are correct.
re: “I heard the NSA cannot monitor it.”
THEY are just lazy; all ham comms in the US _must_ use published protocols with NO encryption of the content ...
ROFL! I wasn't fishing at all, you outed yourself. Shot your mouth off and now you're doubling down on a lie trying to walk it back now.
Nope, you don't get to do that here. You're busted. I could've shot holes in so many other things you said, it was just a matter of time until you did it yourself. Go play with your cb buddies now ... run along because you're clearly not smart enough to play in our backyard.
And they think they’re sooooooooooooooooo smart. LMAO!
No, for you the reality is ya need to be licensed to operate on HF etc...Don’t like it, too bad.
Study a little...It don’t take much effort and get your license. Millions have done it and you can too.
All this complaining ya do, ya could have been on the air. Give it a shot.
Depends on the terrain and frequency. There are some very clever high gain antennas out there to receive a signal. Like my quad, I am able to monitor low power AM CB band TX from Maryland and Hawaii with it when the conditions are right here in Az. But to triangulate would require extended mobile capability.
re: “ ... but this elite organization and the FCC should consider opening up a few of the “long range” frequencies for general public use. ...”
ANd driver’s licenses for illegals, right?
Monitored by one satellite. Precisely located by three.
Wrong again "smart guy" .... and you don't even know why.
Your quad cannot process signals that it doesn’t receive. Gain isn’t magic.
re: “ The only “long range” of HF is due to the very unpredictable and uncontrollable “skip” as the signal bounces from the earth to the changing layers of the ionosphere. It is called “Shortwave” for a reason after all.”
I can tell you’ve never actually worked 160 meters ... 160 meters is a MEDIUM WAVE band with DIFFERENT characteristics from freqs above 3 MHz ...
Lack of breaking up the statements makes that unclear.
I responded to the misinformation that amateur radio cannot be monitored by the NSA. Clearly that's incorrect since amateur radio communications aren't encrypted and are in the clear for anyone with an appropriate receiver to listen to them.
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