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To: DoughtyOne

The “Kurds” are ethnically NW Iranians - mountain people. They spread North throughout the mountain range and expanded into three other countries.

They had their own country for three years - 1920-1923.

After the Ottoman Empire was broken up, the land was divvied up by the Treaty of Sèvres in 1920 and the Kurds got a State. That treaty was renegotiated in 1923 with the Treaty of Lausanne which did not set aside a State for them.

This was all done by Euro, UK and Turkey. USA had nothing to do with it. The Kurds were part of the Ottoman Empire voluntarily before that.

They’re akin to the Appalachian people in that they have their own culture. Other than that, they’re Iranians originally.

If the Appalachian mountain range extended all the way into Canada and the Appalachians had expanded up there before the USA and Canada was a thing, would anyone say we should cut out a chunk of the USA and a chunk of Canada today to give them a country?

Just because you live in the hills/mountains and become your own culture, doesn’t mean you get your own country.


27 posted on 10/10/2019 4:57:09 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Pollard

Thanks for your comments/information.

You talk of modern times circa the last 100 years, but it seems to me their history goes back a lot longer than that.

While I get your point about the Appalachians, I’m not completely sold on it

These have been a recognized separate people, even if they haven’t been dealt a territory of their own over time.

The Kurds are recognized as a large body of people. They have been rather autonomous.

They’ve been conquered a number of times over the centuries. I somewhat sympathize with them not wanting to be under someone’s thumb, subjecting them to military campaigns even incorporating chemical weapons against them.

Are the Kurds the ideal people, they might think themselves to be? Look, who in that region is perfect? Of course they’re not perfect. I still believe they should have a place to call their own

We’re talking about desolate places, where about all they are requesting are square feet of sand, with the exception of some oil rich territories. Those should be negotiated about in some form of a reasoned manner.

I’m not looking for them to be given the crown jewels of other nations. I’m not convinced that’s what they are demanding, although some of the oil field areas could be reasonably thought to qualify as that.

The whole Middle-Eastern region was divided up in the mid 18th Century. The nations that now have their own borders, seemed to agree that was a good idea back then.

Now it’s time for the Kurds to have a shot at autonomy.

I don’t think your comparison of lopping off a large tract of ground through the middle of the United States is reasoned. The Kurds are seeking a region that takes some land from three/four different nations on their borders.

Let’s recall that Israel became a nation due to some revamping of borders, so this sort of thing has happened before.


46 posted on 10/10/2019 5:30:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Pollard

https://thekurdishproject.org/history-and-culture/kurdish-history/


47 posted on 10/10/2019 5:30:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Pollard

Great comparison to our Appaalchian people.
LOL! no one wants us...
We’re just troublesome.


49 posted on 10/10/2019 5:34:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Pollard

Bookmark


58 posted on 10/10/2019 6:01:41 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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