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Man who does not understand consent has right to pursue sex, court rules
The Guardian ^ | Thu 3 Oct 2019 02.00 EDT Last modified on Thu 3 Oct 2019 10.48 EDT | Amelia Hill

Posted on 10/04/2019 7:53:29 PM PDT by jonascord

The court of protection has ruled that a man who cannot understand the issue of consent must be allowed to pursue sexual relationships.

Mrs Justice Roberts ruled that the man, who has autism with impaired cognition and lives in a supported residential placement, has a “fundamental right to sex”.

The court considers issues relating to people who might lack the mental capacity to make decisions.

A clinical psychologist submitted a report saying that the 36-year-old man, referred to as JB, represents a “moderate risk” of sexual offending to women, particularly to those who are vulnerable, and that JB cannot understand that a woman’s consent is relevant in sexual situations, nor that attempting sex without consent is likely to be a criminal offense.

However, the judge said that insisting that JB understands the issue of consent before being allowed to pursue sexual relationships would be discrimination because it would “impose on him a burden which a capacitous individual may not share”.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: jennifermaryroberts; rape; uk; weird
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To: jonascord
"Mrs Justice Roberts ruled that the man...has a 'fundamental right to sex'."

Yeah, "Mrs." Apt description, especially in regards to this case.

41 posted on 10/05/2019 12:36:32 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: jonascord

Oh. The title, “Justice,” confused me. Thank goodness, it isn’t about our Supreme Court. We’re somewhat okay for now in that way. Need one more good man like Kavanaugh.


42 posted on 10/05/2019 12:45:07 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: jonascord; dp0622
Thus, you can avoid a rape charge if you claim you didn't think it was wrong...


43 posted on 10/05/2019 1:00:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: jonascord

And I hope, women encountering this man have a fundamental right to hit him in the head with a frying pan.

CC


44 posted on 10/05/2019 2:41:23 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: jonascord

This coming from a women judge and which leaves the door open for the illegals and Muslim invader rapists, “ my client your honor didn’t understand the word consent” or the word NO


45 posted on 10/05/2019 2:46:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: adorno

>>A woman who is raped by someone like him,will also have a right to protect herself to the point of killing her attacker. Then, what will the judge say?<<

No she won’t. This case is in UK. She will need to submit, if her rapist is Muslim.


46 posted on 10/05/2019 2:58:31 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist canÂ’t enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

We do, the 1689 Bill of Rights, which yours was largely based on.


47 posted on 10/05/2019 3:36:28 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: jonascord

I saw the term “InCel” used in an article last week, referring to the kind of person that might shoot up a movie theater. Those in power to make up new words the media likes to use, say it stands for “Involuntary Celibate”. Or basically, A man without a girlfriend that isn’t gay...


48 posted on 10/05/2019 4:47:30 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: jonascord

Goes along with that imam who said it was okay to have sex with a nine year old provided they were married if only for an hour before divorcing her.


49 posted on 10/05/2019 5:27:48 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: jonascord

An expansion of the Muslim Rapist Automatic Exoneration Rule.

The judge is an imbecile. Autism has no correlation with low intelligence. In fact, people on the spectrum tend to be in the upper ranges..


50 posted on 10/05/2019 5:43:07 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: adorno

Step One: find a way to buy a gun in the land of the Euroweenies.


51 posted on 10/05/2019 5:45:07 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jonascord

Now the U.K. can begin to quit charging sexual assault crimes against “immigrants” who come from cultures where it is not understood that consent is required for sexual relations. My guess is that is the motive here. If one “natural inability” to understand consent is accepted, others WILL follow. The slippery slide in the law works its evil every time.


52 posted on 10/05/2019 6:35:32 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

It certainly seems to omit the key rights like freedom of speech and religion and right to bear arms.


53 posted on 10/05/2019 7:02:46 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: jonascord

This is an uncomfortable verdict because it basically addresses the fact that mentally-retarded individuals are horny just like the rest of us, an unpleasant detail that most people would rather not discuss.


54 posted on 10/05/2019 7:11:45 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: jazminerose
Step One: find a way to buy a gun in the land of the Euroweenies.

How 'bout a knife. Or a rock. Or a club.
55 posted on 10/05/2019 8:55:17 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Hebrews 11:6

It advocated the right to bear arms for loyal citizens (i.e. protestants). Given the context of the time, when Catholics were murdering protestants on the continent and the deposed king and his supporters were all catholic, this was perhaps understandable.


56 posted on 10/05/2019 6:52:14 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Still, the free-speech protections seem nearly non-existent.


57 posted on 10/05/2019 6:58:20 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

They were focused on the free speech of parliamentarians to criticise government policy in parliament. At that stage, nobody really considered that ordinary people should have that same right outside parliament, the American 1st amendment was an evolution of that earlier concept to give ordinary citizens the same right to criticise the government that elected parliamentarians had.


58 posted on 10/05/2019 7:05:10 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: ptsal

Whoopi’s Goldberg will interview this judge next week.


I know it’s wrong of me, but don’t you mean “Whoofy” Goldberg?


59 posted on 10/05/2019 7:16:42 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: jonascord

Do the women have the right to defend themselves from his unwanted advances?


60 posted on 10/05/2019 7:24:27 PM PDT by kalee
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