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Odd markings, ellipses fuel doubts about the ‘rough transcript’ of Trump’s Ukraine call (huh?)
WaPo ^ | October 3, 2019 | Drew Harwell

Posted on 10/03/2019 4:41:54 AM PDT by BurgessKoch

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To: AmericanCheeseFood

The system used for these telephonic transcripts includes 4 stenographers who review their notations together to insure the accuracy of the final report.


21 posted on 10/03/2019 5:30:53 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: BurgessKoch

Wash Post should...


22 posted on 10/03/2019 5:47:29 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: BurgessKoch

One thing they fail to mention. There was a translator on the call also. So those elipses, or “missing parts” may be when the translator was speaking.


23 posted on 10/03/2019 5:47:52 AM PDT by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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To: Gay State Conservative

THE AMAZON POST

THE AMAZON COMPOST

There, fixed it.
24 posted on 10/03/2019 5:49:50 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: BurgessKoch

The fact that the transcript was placed under tighter security was probably a response to suspicions that someone was going to try to rewrite the conversation, a rewrite that the whistleblower was relying on to verify his lies.


25 posted on 10/03/2019 5:51:49 AM PDT by odawg
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To: BurgessKoch

It says right on the first page that it is not a word-for-word transcript of the conversation. What part of that does the media not comprehend?


26 posted on 10/03/2019 5:54:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BurgessKoch

Grasping for straws. This means the rest of their case sucks.

Orchestrated event by deep state.


27 posted on 10/03/2019 6:06:25 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: BurgessKoch
according to the current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity <<<<

“anonymity”= fake news at best...treasonous spy's at worst...

It really is when we have to get into punctuation.....is that like what the meaning of “is” is?

28 posted on 10/03/2019 6:07:57 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: BurgessKoch

Another last gasping breath.
It’s amazing that we have allowed liberals to exist at all if they are this grasping and crude.


29 posted on 10/03/2019 6:09:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote (eh)
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To: laconic

Drudge is hoping for another “enchanting moment.”

Go back to the candy counter, Matt.


30 posted on 10/03/2019 6:26:00 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: BurgessKoch

Perhaps if they check they water mark on the paper for microdots, or heat the paper to see if there are any lemon juice secret writings by deep state stenographers..or the NSA can run it through the I CHING secret decoder ring. wait we can just watch them do this on CNN and MSNBC today.


31 posted on 10/03/2019 6:29:19 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: BurgessKoch

It has been noted in other reports that those dastardly ellipses are pauses in conversation. Grasp some more straws why don’t they?


32 posted on 10/03/2019 6:33:30 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

The “reporters” must have watched the Bond movie Casino Royale; in it Ellipses is the Code Name for a plot by a poker player to take over the world.


33 posted on 10/03/2019 6:37:18 AM PDT by laconic
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To: BurgessKoch

The legacy media are trying to create an “18 minute gap” element of doubt in the public’s minds regarding the call summary.


34 posted on 10/03/2019 6:58:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BurgessKoch
Those include the use of ellipses — punctuation indicating that information has been deleted for clarity or other reasons — that traditionally have not appeared in summaries of presidential calls with foreign leaders, according to the current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity

There's a lot packed into this sentence.

The ellipses are highly unusual for such documents.

They don't traditionally appear in such documents.

Anonymous people have said so.

35 posted on 10/03/2019 7:30:51 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: BurgessKoch
The rough transcript is fake and the Biden video where he confesses to blackmailing Ukraine isn't really evidence Biden blackmailed Ukraine?

Can the bias be anymore transparent?

36 posted on 10/03/2019 9:14:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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The system used for these telephonic transcripts includes 4 stenographers who review their notations together to insure the accuracy of the final report.

I am certain that these transcribers most likely do not use English alphabetic notation to write down what they are hearing. Haven’t these people ever been in court or have had a deposition where a court record is using a machine to record every word that is spoken in a phonetically coded format? It is very accurate in a format they can read back and then transcribe later into a court record. Also, a good stenographer, using shorthand, can get write down spoken words very quickly.

Now, with four of either type of stenographers, listening and taking down either shorthand or using a court recording machine, and then comparing notes to produce the transcript. I think it is quite accurate.

37 posted on 10/03/2019 10:31:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: BurgessKoch

WaPo stopped reporting news years ago. It’s a Pro Leftist Pamphlet, nothing more.


38 posted on 10/03/2019 10:32:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DoodleDawg
It says right on the first page that it is not a word-for-word transcript of the conversation. What part of that does the media not comprehend?

It can’t be a word-for-word transcript, not unless it includes the translations.

Zelensky speaks English, but his English is not as good as it could be, especially with American vernacular and slang. Trump certainly does not speak an Eastern European language well, although he may have picked some up from his Eastern European wife, but it is unlikely it would be too useful in diplomacy, or in another Eastern European country, despite how many languages she knows. President Trump has a tendency to use slang and popular vernacular phrases that would need to be explained to Zelensky by someone who understands the cultural concepts. A direct conversation can be very confusing.

Usually, in official conversations between heads of state, where there are language differences for clarity purposes and to avoid misunderstandings, it is protocol to always use professional translators on both sides. That’s why a 33 minute real-time phone conversation resulted in only a about a two page transcript. Each side translated the English to Ukrainian, and the Ukrainian back to English, with some discussion to assure that the translations were in agreement with the correct meaning. That’s why it is not an exact word-for-word transcript. It is, however, an English transcript of the meaning of what was said. The ellipses represent the interruptions for the translations and the jumps in thought that occur due to the natural thinking that goes on while the pauses for translations are taking place. It’s human nature to lose track of what one was saying prior to the translator jumping in.

39 posted on 10/03/2019 10:48:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: laconic

Pinky: “Gee Brain, what are we gonna do tonight?” Brain: “The same thing we do every night, try to take over the world!”


40 posted on 10/03/2019 6:12:58 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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