Posted on 10/02/2019 5:09:36 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
The ruling class still believes in a consensus that doesn’t exist. Their legitimacy is vanishing
The Democratic party and the chattering classes are playing a dangerous game with impeachment.
Their are two modern precedents — Nixon’s resignation before his probable impeachment in 1974 and Bill Clinton’s actual impeachment in 1998. But neither is comparable to the contemplated impeachment of Donald Trump. All impeachments are partisan, but this one is in doubly bad faith: it has no chance of succeeding in removing Trump, and it has no chance of acquitting him in a way that will strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.
The only outcome possible is to confirm for Democrats and Republicans alike the idea that 2020 is a regime-change moment, for reasons that go far beyond Trump.
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With Trump, everything is different. The 2016 election was a referendum on the regime itself. Trump resurrected the populist attacks on the country’s political and economic establishment that Buchanan and Perot had battle-tested in the 1990s.
Trump was no mere conventional Republican who happened to beat Hillary Clinton. He was a completely unconventional Republican who first beat the party’s own ideological standard-bearers during the primaries, in the course of which he often said things that no Republican had said for a generation or more.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.us ...
It is far more than political suicide as it can be literal.
I did. One assumption the author points out as no longer still true is that conservatives want to conserve this government. IMHO many of us are beginning to realize that is a “shot in the back dry gulch” option. Why are we working to preserve a system that is rigged against us?
Damn’ good post.
Imam of Peace
@Imamofpeace
The Democrats are trying to impeach President
@realDonaldTrump
for trying to expose a crime, and then elect the person who committed the crime.
Great read!
“Why are we working to preserve a system that is rigged against us?”
Why indeed?
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" if 40 percent of the country remains with Trump through the ordeal of impeachment, that will show that 40 percent is anti-regime — revolutions are made with less."
Impeachment will be the catalyst for term limits.
The ‘Rats are not impeaching the President
Listen to Nancy, Impeachment Inquiry, it has nothing to do with Impeachment, just more dog and pony show investigations, no votes, no articles of impeachment.
It is so they can fund raise, they are broke and need money and are pissed that President Trump raised over 125 million last quarter.
Listen to Mitch as well, he said the senate will hold a trial and vote for the articles of impeachment, he did not say “impeachment inquiry” or non binding “impeachment inquiry”. Words mean things here, and notice the language, basically cocaine mitch just called Nancy’s bluff. She isn’t going to actually do anything, sure they will talk about impeachment, do fake dog and pony show investigation, whine, complain, etc, basically the same crap they have been doing for the past 3 years. But this time they really really mean it.
This is just fund raising because the orange man is kicking their behinds on it. Will it work? Who knows
The old saying is that if you strike at a king, be sure to kill him. In this case, the regime is striking not a king but at the very idea that an elected official can challenge the establishment. This risks revealing just how weak the country’s ruling class really is: if 40 percent of the country remains with Trump through the ordeal of impeachment, that will show that 40 percent is anti-regime — revolutions are made with less. And that 40 percent would be a floor, not a ceiling; a starting point for a future anti-regime movement.
The whole piece is exceptionally well thought out and expressed. Best read posted on FR in quite some time, IMO.
Imam of Peace
@Imamofpeace
The Democrats are trying to impeach President
@realDonaldTrump
for trying to expose a crime, and then elect the person who committed the crime.
Just as “criminal” is: Why on God’s green Earth would anyone with any brains put the doofus Joe Biden in charge of managing/disbursing a billion American tax payer dollars to ANYONE?
The Democrats...all of them, are doing the Trump impeachment investigation and inquiry behind closed doors...bad move!!! The Democrat Party led by leader Pelosi is committing political suicide.
The mere fact and reality of the massively attended POTUS Trump Political Campaign Rallies (Coming up, Minneapolis & Dallas in October, 2019) & the massive $125,000,000 dollars raised in the three months....with millions of bucks more pouring in every day from hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Trump small donors and avid supporters, should send a clear signal that this Democrat Party Impeachment farce is doomed to failure. Conducting it behind closed doors with little public viewing access will condemn this gig to total failure and the political destruction of the entire Democrat Party!!!
Some here like to micro-dose the Kool-Aid and get all frothed up over what's said on the View and in articles on HuffPost and MSNBC. They are like abused children still looking for validation from their abusive alcoholic Daddy in the wife beater.
In bold is they key sentence, IMHO. The author touches on it-the ancien regime as he puts it is actually striking at the people, including those who, for whatever reason, don't recognize it.
What the author also misses, which I think has roots going back to GHW Bush, is a growing realization that those institutions that were intended to/claimed to serve the people of the United States are there to protect the institutions (and those connected to those institutions if not actually part of them) themselves at the expense of the people of the United States.
That's how revolutions get started, for I'll or for better.
Is Nancy’s impeachment inquiry official without a House vote?
The author’s thesis is exactly the opposite of your conclusion. The author points to the big part of the nation and electorate that is completely fed up with the ancien regime and wants to destroy it. He posits that there is a floor of 40% of the electorate in that camp and it could go a lot higher than that after the failed impeachment attempt.
Even with a house vote it means nothing
Articles of impeachment as defined by the constitution is how impeachment is done.
Impeachment Inquiry is nowhere in the constitution
This is so their moderate members can say they did not vote for articles of impeachment. But the media will report that Trump was Inpeeched!
They are playing with words here
in all this, we find the dems and media are the worst .i did not know such privileged persons harbored such hate for anything but their own greed
impeach a man over personality...how could that ever happen.. and by those who are guilty of crimes lying and treason
we have sunk that low
i could not stand obama we didnt lose our minds..the damage being caused by the haters, ...and they dont care who or what or how
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I did a paper in my poli sci elective class in ‘70 or ‘71 on the forgotten middle class. Most of my source material came from news magazines such as Time and Newsweek which were thriving at the time. As I recall, Nixon relied heavily on this demographic and even promoted himself to them (us) in the ‘72 election, and he won re-election by a landslide.
In the coming election, think a large demographic of voters are being mobilized, who would not otherwise have voted, and will be going to the polls next year. Not just because of the impeachment movement, but because of all the other warrantless attacks on Trump and conservatives. The impeachment movement is merely the trigger. It wouldn’t surprise me to see once safe Democrat House seats go to conservatives. The voters realize that the accusations of Trump being a liar, a racist, and other negative, horrendous, monstrous things, are unsubstantiated, because these accusations are never supported by any examples.
Oh, my extremely liberal poli sci prof gave me a B on my term paper and a B for the course, with no comments on my paper. He was a strong supporter of the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), an extremist radical group at the University of Kentucky at the time, and credited with burning down the administration building in May, ‘70. My prof? The year after I graduated, I read that he had been arrested for receiving stolen property - to wit, an IBM Selectric Typewriter valued at $2,500, that he purchased from someone at a downtown bar in Lexington, (for $100 or $200 I recall). Based on today’s standards, he would not be allowed to teach due to the personal sexually suggestive comments and questions he asked aloud to students in his class. His name was Dr. Gene Mason.
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