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‘Rural values’ can tilt voters Republican – even for some minorities
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 30, 2019 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 10/01/2019 11:27:29 AM PDT by Jagermonster

Why we wrote this——Democrats might assume that a minority people in North Carolina’s poorest county would vote with them. But as one observer puts it, “This is not about Native American identity. This is about rural Indian values.”

Pembroke, N.C. — The Lumbee Indians of Robeson County about broke Dan McCready’s heart.

The former Marine and clean-energy investor spent 27 months wooing the Lumbee Tribe in rural North Carolina, in a bid to turn the state’s 9th Congressional District Democratic for the first time since 1963.

They were so close. Mr. McCready’s Carolina-blue signs were all over the suburbs of Charlotte-Mecklenburg, where Republicans had always ruled. A GOP fraud scandal had invalidated the 2018 election, forcing the do-over. President Donald Trump had won the district by 12 points in 2016 but, days before a special election, Mr. McCready had a small lead in the polls.

The Lumbees, nearly all of them registered Democrats, could put him over the top. Yet in the end, by some estimates about half the Lumbees voted for the Republican, Dan Bishop, the architect of the state’s controversial 2016 “bathroom bill.”

The hard-right turn of the Lumbees didn’t just turn the election, but turned identity politics on its head, political scientists say. The conflict among the Lumbees goes to the core of how identity politics plays at the ballot box: whether to be defined or to define oneself. At the crux of that divide in this case: minority voting rights versus rural values around guns, faith, and self-reliance.

“Bottom line: We are red-blooded Americans,” says Jason Locklear, a health care executive and member of the 55,000-strong Lumbee people. “There are guns in the trucks in the church parking

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: deplorables; nc2020; redstates; rural
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1 posted on 10/01/2019 11:27:29 AM PDT by Jagermonster
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To: Jagermonster

Do the Lumbee’s accept new members? How does one become a Lumbee?


2 posted on 10/01/2019 11:33:03 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
Dunno - per the article, its a cultural thing more than an ethnic thing, so maybe.

"On a day in the mid-1700s, company surveyors stumbled on native people wearing European clothes, farming using modern methods, and hailing them in the King’s English. Over time, escaped slaves and Confederate deserters joined their ranks, Lumbee identity based more on culture than blood."
3 posted on 10/01/2019 11:35:43 AM PDT by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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To: Jagermonster

Great. They are starting to realize how the Dems just want to use them.


4 posted on 10/01/2019 11:36:35 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Jagermonster

In a little rural precinct in far West Texas, 28 Hispanic surnames were recorded as voters on Election Day 2016. These are field hands and their wives. A total of 67 people voted, with 49 voting for President Trump. Rural Americans can’t be compartmentalized as neatly as city dwellers.


5 posted on 10/01/2019 11:41:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Jagermonster

Holy cow! This needs looking into.


6 posted on 10/01/2019 11:42:06 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Jagermonster

The problem is that urban values can tilt people democrat. And there are a lot more urban people than rural people.


7 posted on 10/01/2019 11:47:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Jagermonster

The USA used to be an agrarian culture with 95% of the population living more or less in isolation on family farms, independent and self-dependent. We were a solidly conservative and moral nation then.

Today, 20% of people live in rural areas with 80% living in cities or in their attached suburbs.

The Founding fathers warned us about the dangers of big cities. It is no wonder people become liberal the longer they live in cities, generationally. We lose our independence and self-reliance in cities, and begin depending on the government more and more. One way how commie liberals are made.


8 posted on 10/01/2019 11:50:11 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jagermonster

Read the Wiki on these people. They sound tough. They attacked Confederates who were trying to conscript them for labor. They attacked a Klan rally. Seriously. Fired up a Klan Rally.


9 posted on 10/01/2019 11:57:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Jagermonster

In the early 1700’s NC had numerous tribes spread across the state. Sapona, Uwharrie, Saura, Cawtaba, Ossippie, Wacamaw, Core, and several others. These tribes were virtually wiped out by disease and the survivors often joined other tribes out of necessity.

IMO, the Lumbee are the descendants of mixed tribes and were joined by runaway indentured servants and later slaves from NE NC and VA.

The mixed group prospered in the dense swamps which were far away from colonial and early American population centers.

The Fed Gov doesn’t grant the Lumbee full Native American rights because of their convoluted bloodlines.


10 posted on 10/01/2019 12:12:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: cuban leaf

The problem is that urban values can tilt people democrat. And there are a lot more urban people than rural people.

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If you live in the city, you are as dependent on government as a newborn to mother. You walk to work on concrete paved by the city and drive on streets by the same. To drink or to wash, you get your water from pipes, not out of the ground or from clouds. You need to eat, you pull your food off a shelf, not off of the land. When you work, you don’t improve the world around you, you only have agreements to exchange knowledge or service for money. You don’t truly produce or transform anything, if you live the city life, more than likely broker in something intangible, like information or the exchange of commodities (that you never touch).

City values = dependancy


11 posted on 10/01/2019 12:32:54 PM PDT by z3n
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To: Jagermonster

Rural values are proven, beneficial to all, and reinforced by nature every day.
“We’re all in this together” is at center.


12 posted on 10/01/2019 12:41:40 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: z3n

True. And the city/suburb dwellers want all to be as dependent as they are. Can’t have rugged individuals out there, triggering unwanted feelings in our soy boys and soccer moms.


13 posted on 10/01/2019 12:56:11 PM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: z3n

“City values = dependency”

Spot on. If someone stops pumping your water, stops hauling away your trash or delivering food to stores a city person dies in trash and filth in a matter of days. And deep down then KNOW they are dependent like that. Deep down inside they need laws to control others and protect them.


14 posted on 10/01/2019 2:33:35 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Jagermonster

Bookmark


15 posted on 10/01/2019 2:43:41 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: cuban leaf; Freedom_Is_Not_Free; z3n; polymuser; TalonDJ
What works for rural areas doesn't work for the urban areas, and what works for the urban areas doesn't work for the rural areas. For example, a ban on keeping pigs in your backyard, or a ban on discharging firearms in your backyard, makes a lot of sense in an urban area, where your neighbors are all right on top of you, and these sorts of activities are a nuisance or actually put your neighbors at risk. Thus, for the most part, these sorts of rules are perfectly reasonable. In a rural area, these sorts of rules have no logical basis.

But here's the rub: People usually vote in state and federal elections with the same philosophy that they apply in local elections - more authoritarian (urban), or more libertarian (rural).

But this is not appropriate, because authoritarian control at the state and federal level actually prevents both urban and rural citizens from reaching solutions that work best for them. An urban dweller may reasonably vote for the Democrat who will keep farm animals out of town, punish the discharge of firearms within city limits, etc. because these are reasonable solutions to problems in his city. But he acts unreasonably when he votes for the same sort of control at the state or federal level, because these may not be reasonable solutions for other urban areas, and are certainly not reasonable solutions for rural areas.

A reasoning man should never vote to increase government control at the higher levels because in doing so he presumes that what works for him, in his particular circumstances, must be right for all citizens of his state or country.
16 posted on 10/01/2019 4:00:25 PM PDT by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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