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To: cotton1706

When this all shakes out, it will turn out that Schiff and the congressional dems set this up from the get go.


2 posted on 09/29/2019 5:13:20 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

Agree!!


3 posted on 09/29/2019 5:15:13 AM PDT by mplc51
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That's called SEDITION and punishable by death; the highest crime that can be committed against the U.S.
5 posted on 09/29/2019 5:22:39 AM PDT by adorno
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To: FlipWilson

Trump and his family are taking the brunt of this for US; we are the deplorables, the real target of the bitter two-time loser Hillary Clinton and her Capitol Hill, media and CIA allies. The one benefit of this constant barrage is that we see that the Paul Ryans, Romneys, McCains, Bushes are not, and never were our friends but were the slinking allies of the left, desperately eager for their favor, happy to push us down, willing to say anything critical of Trump, Reagan and us in return for a few scraps of praise from the media table and invitations to their social events. This wretched bunch is not only attacking us, they are attacking our history, culture and legitimacy and using the tools we pay for, such as the ridiculous failures known as the embedded CIA and FBI to meddle in domestic politics and further their disgusting aims.


7 posted on 09/29/2019 5:30:20 AM PDT by laconic
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To: FlipWilson

Yes, when the collusion ploy failed, they rolled out the phone call. If it wasn’t the that , it would be something else. They know they won’t win, but they simply can’t conduct normal government and business when they can’t use it to advance their agenda. Thus they’ll have constant investigations until the election. They know they’ll lose, but it would be worse if they had to compete on even turf, where their failing policies would be further exposed.


8 posted on 09/29/2019 5:33:46 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: FlipWilson
Consider how the Moeller investigation played out.

It lasted for years and gave the Democrats plausibility to argue that the president had committed obstructions of justice. No matter that they were incongruously arguing that the president was inexplicably obstructing his own exoneration, a great part of the American electorate doesn't go that deeply into these things. Some damage was done.

During these years when the Mueller investigation hung-fire, the president was virtually hamstrung in effecting his policy objectives legislatively and it was only through his personal determination that he was able to accomplish prodigious policy accomplishments through regulation. Case in point, the diversion of funds to build the wall. Trump was also able to affect domestic policy reforms through foreign policy such as tariffs and threat of tariffs against Mexico to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants across the southern border.

In the battle to win the election of 2020 there are two considerations: 1) energize your own base and discourage your opponent's base; 2) win the all-important independents who often decide elections -in this case with emphasis on educated, suburban females. No doubt this impeachment gambit will energize the base on both sides. The danger for both sides is in the timing. When will the hollowness of the charge be exposed, will it take years for justice to be made public as it did in the Moeller investigation? Or will the president die by a thousand cuts?

Who was in control of the Moeller investigation? Obviously, Moeller was and he, knowing that there was no collusion with Russia, quite deliberately delayed his exoneration of Trump until after the midterm elections.

Who will be in control of the Ukrainegate hoax? By all indications, the House Democrats and the media. The house Democrats have planned this Ukrainegate hoax. We know that because the letter of complaint was written in lawyerly language and, more obviously, because the rules concerning a hearsay complaint were liberalized just-in-time to qualify this hearsay complaint made by a Soros stooge.

Is it not logical to suppose that the Democrats have more planned than just the liberalization of the complaint process and the complaint itself?

That should be pondered in connection with the ability of the Democrats to prolong the process and to go fishing with subpoenas and so forth. Why otherwise would Nancy Pelosi have purported to transform this affair into an impeachment inquiry even before she had read either the transcript or the so-called "whistleblower" complaint? I think step three in the plan is to subpoena the administration to death, tag each witness with innuendo, exaggerate and prevaricate any possible impeachable peccadillo and run the show up to November 2020 or some other opportune moment.

Who else might have control over the proceedings and over the perception which is ladled out to the American public? The administration, the House Republicans, and the Republican Senate. Is there anyone reading this who believes that anyone of these three entities will mount an effective counter charge? Only a fool will believe that the truth will emerge or that the truth will emerge in time.

The administration had better put up someone better than Giuliani to fight this fight. The House Republicans should put up somebody better than McCarthy. The Senate should put up anybody, just anybody for God's sake.


34 posted on 09/29/2019 6:24:16 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: FlipWilson

We already know Schiff was up to his eyeballs in helping to orchestrate. Since he’s up for re-election in 2020 I have no doubt they’ve paid the creep well to pull this stunt and he has no worries about winning or loosing in 2020. Either way he wins $$$ and like Bernie...set for life.

What we do know:

Schiff knew about The Whistleblower Complaint In AUGUST...He was in Ukraine in August...Federal records show that the intelligence community secretly revised the formal whistleblower complaint form in August 2019 to eliminate the requirement of direct, first-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.... in August. So Schiff’s finger prints are all over this... and the House leaders set the stage for hiff New About The Whistleblower Complaint In AUGUST...He was in Ukraine in August...Federal records show that the intelligence community secretly revised the formal whistleblower complaint form in August 2019 to eliminate the requirement of direct, first-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.... in August. ..schiff helped orchestrate this attack and the House leaders set the ‘legalize’ stage to operate.


50 posted on 09/29/2019 7:20:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: FlipWilson

If Trump takes as long as he’s taking to get to the bottom of fake russia collusion we will find out about the origins of UkraineGate sometime in 2056.


53 posted on 09/29/2019 7:32:31 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: FlipWilson

What Schiff did the other day should warrant him being impeached.

He needs to be expelled from Congress.


65 posted on 09/29/2019 11:24:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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