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Intel Community Secretly Gutted Requirement Of First-Hand Whistleblower Knowledge
the federalist ^ | SEPTEMBER 27, 2019 | Sean Davis

Posted on 09/27/2019 1:49:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: Presbyterian Reporter

This whole thread has to be spread far and wide.

I think PDJT could have some fun with it.

Rules/laws a problem Just change them internallay as needed. Delete sources as as needed.

When Strzock was demoted they put him in the HR dept. to add more deep staters. Sheesh.


121 posted on 09/27/2019 10:16:11 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: lodi90

Timing. The Hearsay Document is assembled, The document sent to the Committee, then Schiff sits on it for awhile while they get some hack to change “whistleblower” definition to allow hearsay,, THEN they come forward with the claim. Check my times, but I believe this is correct.

I just saw Sekulow noticed this as well and is checking this, so good.....


122 posted on 09/27/2019 10:16:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: Tunehead54

CAL-AZ State still a good game - I’m multitasking. ;-)


123 posted on 09/27/2019 10:18:25 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Innovative

So if I have suspicions, and have no direct knowledge, I too Can be a Whistleblower.

And believe me, from all the stuff I’ve heard, there’s a LOT of suspicious behavior.

I should probably send in 30 whistleblower complaints myself.

Where’s the form?


124 posted on 09/27/2019 10:38:41 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: cookcounty

According to the CIA website, the new rules written under the name of Michael E. DeVine
Analyst in Intelligence and National Security
Congressional Research Office


125 posted on 09/27/2019 11:28:46 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: cookcounty

Is it kind of odd that the CIA new (Sept 23rd) written or rather published under someone who works for the Congressional Research Office? I know the CRO is theoretically non-partisan, but still. Seems odd.


126 posted on 09/27/2019 11:47:03 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: Mount Athos
Did any one notice that the new form besides not having a correct required government revision date, in the correct format, it doesn’t meet the standard government requirement of having the correct government form name and form number?

The true government form has in its Header and Footer:

Header:
IC IG
Urgent Concern Disclosure Form
Page ii

Footer:

IC IG ICWSP Form 401 (then at the far right) Rev. 24MAY18

The new likely bogus and fraudulent non-government counterfeit form, has in its Header and Footer:

Header:
(IC IG LOGO then, in all upper case) DISCLOSURE OF URGENT CONCERN FORM(No page number)

Footer:

IC IG CPD – ICWSP Disclosure Form (then at the far right) Rev: August 2019

In the Header of the new form, on what has to be a second page, a logo in the header is usually not done, and page numbers are required on a gov’t form yet this one has none. The form’s name has been changed from the previous form’s four word “Urgent Concern Disclosure Form" to five words "DISCLOSURE OF URGENT CONCERN FORM", along with the "I heard it through the grapevine" loose rumor reporting criteria being added.

The very NAME of the form on the footer is even more INCORRECT, and there is no official form number [!], and as in the header, there is no page number indicating this is what page of what number of pages in the entire form, usually a requirements there are multiple pages. Note that the colon after the "Rev" is not a standard government form date pattern which requires a period making it an abbreviation. Finally, what is The "CPD” in the footer’s "IC IG CPDICWSP Disclosure Form"? Where did those three initials come from? they don’t exist on the 24MAY18 form.

Everything about this form screams it hasn’t gone through a full approval process. It’s sloppy. Most likely it’s an ad hoc creation of some young staffer to meet an urgent need to provide verisimilitude to the bogus "whistleblower" assertions when someone noticed the old form required firsthand knowledge. It was cranked out fast by someone not versed in required government form standards.

127 posted on 09/28/2019 12:32:31 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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128 posted on 09/28/2019 12:41:19 AM PDT by Chgogal (Trump: Make America Great Again. Democrat: Make America Mexico Again.)
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The “Ukraine Whistleblower” event is being staged.....a pre-planned event, choreographed by desperate power-hungry Democrats. The internal properties of the newly revised “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, which the intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) requires to be submitted under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA), show that the document was uploaded on September 24, 2019, at 4:25 p.m., just days before the anti-Trump whistleblower complaint was declassified and released to the public. The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of revision is disclosed. The complaint alleges that President Donald Trump broke the law during a phone call with the Ukrainian president. In his complaint, which was dated August 12, 2019, the complainant acknowledged he was “not a direct witness” to the wrongdoing he claims Trump committed.

(HAT TIP researcher Stephen McIntyre)
We are now getting the specifics on how the Schiff Dossier was created out of thin air. Evidence surfacing now shows:
<><> the ICIG only recently created a spanking new official government whistleblower complaint form;
<><> The official government form was custom-made specifically to fit the whistleblower's story;
<><> The official form was changed to allow the filing of complaints “heard from others“ (not "heard first hand" as originally required).
<><> deleted was a reference to rejecting whistleblower complaints that provide only hearsay, rumor, or gossip.

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REFERENCE--Falsifying official government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.
Falsifying official government documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......
can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents as evidence in legal cases.

Falsifyng documents is the criminal MO to cover-up larger crimes and is usually done in connection with broader
criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism, etc........

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READ WHISTLEBLOWER'S COMPLAINT LETTER HERE (NINE PAGE PDF):

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129 posted on 09/28/2019 5:37:31 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Mount Athos

Intelligence Community IG is a lawyer who ASSISTED in the FISA court document FRAUD, helping those elements of the FBI, along with GPS Fusion and the criminal couple Nellie Ohr and husband crook who has flipped.

This is all unravelling nicely.


130 posted on 09/28/2019 8:04:45 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: sphinx

The connex is there for Michael Atkinson.. the IG of the IC— who is up to his a@@ in the FISA court FRAUD.

He was “counsel” for the FBI “laundry” to clean up the fake dossier and sanitize it for the FOOLED FISA court who then OK’d the Carter Page surveill and all the other hop skip and jump “legal” approval spying on the Trump campaign and Trump himself.


131 posted on 09/28/2019 8:08:37 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mount Athos

It really is time to call in the Marines to take over the US Intel Community, FBI, DOJ, and any other RATs’ found. Try them under the UCMJ. Burn them to HELL. Do this before we have to!


132 posted on 09/28/2019 8:38:24 AM PDT by FreedomFtr ((Still fighting for Freedom... and now here at home))
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To: Mount Athos

Intelligence community changes whistleblower rules to eliminate requirement of firsthand knowledge in AUGUST 2019.
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So anyone can claim anything, and be called a credible “Whistle Blower”?

So how long before someone takes the lead and claims that Pelosi, Biden, and others are agents for the Chicoms?

Wouldn’t they be taken as credible “Whistle Blowers”?


133 posted on 09/28/2019 9:04:21 AM PDT by Yulee
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To: Mount Athos

Since hearsay is not admissible in court, my sense is that this was not properly staffed. It never would have made past legal review.


134 posted on 09/28/2019 9:10:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Mount Athos

Folks, this is a very serious change. Think Nazis, USSR; Red China.....................................


135 posted on 09/28/2019 9:13:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: mplc51
I agree. This whole thing was a sham from the beginning and now we find out that the Dems changed the rules so they could make an issue out of "second or third hand knowledge."

So tell me, when does the criminal trial for Schiff, Pelosi, Ortez and the like begin?

136 posted on 09/28/2019 9:54:07 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Mount Athos

Appears we have quite a few traitors embedded within the Fed.
Way past time to flush them out and bring back public hangings to serve as a deterrent for future shenanigans.


137 posted on 09/28/2019 10:59:29 AM PDT by A Voice (As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end times.)
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To: Mount Athos
I think an important point that the Federalist may not have made clear, is that the old form also had a check box for second hand information. But instructions on the old form are that information must be first hand for an urgent concern (as shown in the Federalist article).

There is no doubt the form changed but the checkboxes are the same in both versions, allowing both first and second hand information. The difference is the instructions which separate urgent from non-urgent complaints. That is why the house intel dems were obsessing over "urgent" in their questioning of the acting DNI. They say the IG concluded it was urgent. But it is not urgent according to the instructions. The instructions that were removed say that first hand knowledge is required for an urgent complaint.

But any complaint can be made without first hand knowledge. That was true before and true now, in both the old and new forms.

138 posted on 09/28/2019 12:00:16 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: agatheringstorm
Why didn’t Joseph Macguire bring up the IC regulation that whistleblowers must have first-hand knowledge in the hearing with the House?? Well...he didn’t bring it up because the regulation was changed and there was no longer that requirement!

No, not quite. The form always allowed second hand knowledge for whistleblowing. Both versions. But the old version of the form is that first hand knowledge was required for the complaint to be deemed urgent. That instruction was removed in the new version of the form.

139 posted on 09/28/2019 12:06:10 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Yes, they changed the form. But does it now comply with the whistleblower statutes?

They changed the instructions. Both versions allow second hand information for a valid complaint. But the old form had instructions requiring first hand information for an urgent complaint. Those instructions were removed in the new version of the form.

140 posted on 09/28/2019 12:07:51 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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