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White House, DOJ Gun Control Proposal Includes Universal Background Checks
Breitbart ^ | 18 September 2019 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on 09/19/2019 5:09:31 PM PDT by Windflier

A White House and Department of Justice proposal containing gun control ideas is now available for public consumption.

CNN White House correspondent Elaina Plott tweeted a copy of the document:

The document clearly shows the White House and DOJ adopting the structure of the Manchin-Toomey gun control bill as a guide: “Consistent with the Manchin-Toomey-draft legislation, a background check requirement would be extended to all commercial sales, including sales at gun shows.”

The document shows the Manchin-Toomey background checks–i.e., universal background checks–would include issuance of a “bill of sale” and the preservation of a “chain of title.” Sellers would have the option of preserving record of the sale or allowing a Federal Firearm License holder to record the sale.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrab; nope
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To: Jane Long
I’m good with what POTUS has done for the country, thus far

So am I, but I'm also not afraid to accept the real Trump, as he really is. I knew going in, that he would occasionally act in ways that I don't like, need, or want.

I voted for him anyway, because I knew he'd get most of the big stuff right.

101 posted on 09/20/2019 3:42:08 PM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
👍🏻👍🏻 💞
102 posted on 09/20/2019 7:36:57 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: momincombatboots

“The secrecy by himself and the NRA is concerning...” That the N.R.A. seems to be the go to authority on all things firearms when advice regarding pending legislation is asked for is what concerns me. I am no longer a member of that organization due to their weak-kneed responses and unacceptable advice and concessions made in the past. They no longer, as if they ever did, speak for me.

Although not transcibed, and therefore lacking in word-for-word confirmation, I take to heart the words of Patrick Henry before those in attendance at the Second Virginia Convention, Richmond, VA, March 20, 1775 and apply the points made to the circumstances of today as to our relations with our governments concerning our freedoms. This is the audio presentation. https://www.history.org/media/audio/Libordth.mp3 The text of the speech is here. https://www.history.org/Almanack/life/politics/giveme.cfm


103 posted on 09/20/2019 7:55:57 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: Windflier

“On continuing efforts to pass some kind of gun control legislation, Trump said, “I think there are certain Democrats that really want to do it, and I would like to do it and Republicans would like to. We have to get something that we all agree on.”

Well, aren’t they ‘special’. Hubbub in the smokey back room negotiating how best to further limit our right. He wants it, the Dems and Repubs want it. No mention the people want their natural rights respected and discuss the best method to ensure that happens. No discussion how best to eliminate unconstutional restrictions now in place. No no. (C-tagline.)

I suspect there are no true patriots occupying positions of influence or power. As for me... https://www.history.org/media/audio/Libordth.mp3


104 posted on 09/20/2019 8:34:12 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: Dick Bachert

Experience informs us the rank and file will follow through enforcing the lawful orders of their superiors. It is not their place to question those orders and failure to do so will result in their removal from office. This despite their oath to respect the Constitution of the U.S., their state and local laws and the rights of the citizenry.

An incident very much like the depiction occurred in Tucson due to a SWAT raid intended to acquire evidence only. During daylight. The man was killed. His wife and child terrorized. Taxpayers relieved of twenty million dollars.

Some would accuse us of being paranoid and that cannot happen here. Fools.


105 posted on 09/20/2019 9:04:56 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: umgud

“Living proof, excessive gun control has no impact on mass murders.”

Living proof, gun control has no impact on mass murders.


106 posted on 09/20/2019 9:07:25 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: chulaivn66

Yes, you are right.


107 posted on 09/20/2019 9:38:30 PM PDT by umgud
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To: chulaivn66

I am joining gun owners of America. What about you?
Certainly not voting for a gun grabber like trump. He has been surprisingly great on many things, but the second amendment matters to my children and their children.


108 posted on 09/21/2019 5:10:19 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: DesertRhino

We had a Good Run,,,


109 posted on 09/21/2019 5:22:33 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: chulaivn66

Understand.
But a friend who was senior officer on the force once told me that if an order came down to begin a gun round-up, the first sign would be fistfights and even gunfire at the local cop shop.
Of course, this IS the DEEP SOUTH & we’re a tad peculiar being deplorables ans all.


110 posted on 09/22/2019 1:40:31 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Big Red Badger
We had a Good Run,,,

It ain't over yet. 04 July 2006 will be the 250th anniversary of 04 July 1776. I'm not yet so old and tired that I can't keep up the fight for another seven years.

When I was 18 years old, I gave my word that I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

There was no expiration date on it. The exact wording of the oath changed over the years as I transitioned from a young enlisted tank gunner, to a Department of the Army Civilian, then transferred to the Navy, Took a renewed Oath as an officer, and finally, as a Dep't of Defence Civilian employee doing things a good and honorable officer shouldn't do, lest it set a bad example for his/her troops.

And if I have to go and stand by my word again in the next seven years, you ain't seen nothing yet...

111 posted on 09/26/2019 10:42:28 AM PDT by archy
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