I wonder why the media doesn't THIS time thrust the victims before us...?
Posted on 09/06/2019 10:26:54 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
I wonder why the media doesn't THIS time thrust the victims before us...?
The crewmen talking about it were saying it’s was believed that a charge area where everyone plugs in their phones, tablets etc caused the initial fire. A defective lithium battery.
Because that's not what happened. It was merely the coast guardsman's interpretation of what was said.
There was a guy on fox yesterday morning who went into great detail about that particular ship and dive boats in general and the only hatch door to down below is not locked......
Given the small size of the hatch door and the difficulty of a large adult to enter thru it, there is no way anybody could have been rescued......let alone make a hasty exit to safety.
I don’t think so at all.
The 'locked in' part was the dispatcher, not the captain. So, when the news reports claimed the captain said this, they were mistaken.
Here's a link to the transcript of the mayday call. (See: 'I can't breathe … . there's no escape hatch': Dramatic mayday call from California boat on fire)
Man, around 3:15 a.m.: “Mayday, mayday, mayday! … Conception … north side of Santa Cruz.” (He’s broken up by static.)
Coast Guard Sector Los Angeles-Long Beach dispatcher asks position and number of people on board.
Man: “I can’t breathe.” … (garbled)
Dispatcher: “You have 29 persons on board and you can’t breathe? What is your current GPS position?”
(Another man calls in who heard the distress call and is over by Anacapa Island.)
There’s some garbled space and back-and-forth for a few minutes as dispatchers try to reach anyone from the boat.
A frantic man can be heard:
“Vessel Conception! Vessel Conception! Vessel Conception!” …
Dispatch: “Your vessel is on fire? Is that correct? … Are you on board the Conception?”
Man: “Roger, there’s 33 people that’s on board the vessel that’s on fire. They can’t get off.”
Dispatch: “Roger, are they locked inside the boat? Roger, can you get back on board and unlock the boat, unlock the door so they can get off? Roger, you don’t have any firefighting gear, no fire extinguishers or anything?”
Dispatch: “Roger, is this the captain of the Conception?”
Man: “Roger”
Dispatch: “Was that all the crew that jumped off?”
Man: “Roger”
Dispatch: “Is the vessel fully engulfed now?”
Man: “Roger, and there’s no escape hatch for any of the people on board.”
That was on the call audio. Don't know what they meant, was the forward hatch locked or something.
Hopefully there are tapes of both sides of the conversation, and if not, why not?
Have you seen what that boat looked like inside? I saw a Youtube video of one, and I do not think it would be possible to escape a flash fire from the sleeping quarters. The bunks are like cubby hole berths with curtains and they line the the entire perimeter of the sleeping quarters. There is only a small area in which to stand. The berths start at floor level and there are three levels of the bunks. Basically, they crammed in 35 or so people in those sleeping quarters. In order to exit, they would have had to go orderly a few at a time.
I am not a diver and am not into this stuff, but it looks like the boat was just a floating place to crash. I'm somewhat claustrophobic and would not have wanted to travel that way. The crew must have been on top of the boat, either on the deck or in the pilot area.
It wasn’t locked, it was blocked. Misunderstood the call
That is a good question, FRiend. And it is even more important when you know that everything the media does is in the view of how does this advance or promote our agenda. The same principle applies when they omit something, or don’t do something.
Shades of ‘Usual Suspects’
Safety instructions would not have saved the victims, a fire broke out while they were asleep and rapidly engulfed the only egress they had.... Sadly...
All the “safety training in the world” won’t save that.
When the captain said locked, they asked again if it was locked. He said yes. they told him to drive back and unlock it. I wanna believe it was not locked. Am I mistaken?
Unless they actually practice an emergency drill it's unlikely most people would know how to act in a real emergency.
Pointing to an escape hatch is different from actually crawling through an escape hatch.
Actual drills would help. They would have highlighted how inadequate the escape hatch was.
I understand space is a premium on a boat but these boats need to be re-designed with safety in mind, not saving space.
If it means fewer passengers increase the rates.
It was news when it happened. It doesn't keep being news.
The lithium battery excuse is being used right now in a unrelated criminal case in San Diego. A man got drunk and passed out. Fire department says that his lit cigarette and whiskey started the fire that killed his two kids. The defense attorney says it was the lithium battery that did it. The father had previously threatened to burn down the place by text messaging. The jury will decide.
I’m hoping they died of smoke inhalation rather than burned alive. If the tally was on fire the smoke would overwhelm the sleeping quarters and I pray to God they were asleep and unaware.
“Smoking grass or mainlining, and fire started, accelerants in the vicinity caught fire.”
Were you there?
This could be significant, if you can ascertain why it was done.
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