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Boris Johnson suffers double blow as MPs block no-deal Brexit and snap election
mirror.co.um ^ | September 4, 2019 | Pippa Crerar

Posted on 09/04/2019 9:48:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Boris Johnson’s fledgling ­premiership was in tatters last night after MPs kicked out his bid to call a general election to force through his no-deal Brexit.

The PM suffered the defeat on only his third day in office – after Tories he brutally purged for voting against him on Tuesday joined opposition parties to reject his call for a poll.

Mr Johnson had earlier lost a bid to block MPs from voting to take no-deal off the table. And it came a day after Tory rebels helped push through a debate to discuss the matter.

Amid the backlash, it meant Mr Johnson became the first PM in history to lose his first three Commons votes in a row.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bojo; brexit; brexitparty; eu; europeanunion; eurotrash; eurotroll; euroweenie; nato; nigelfarage; ukpolitburo; ukssr; unitedkingdom
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To: Cronos

He won’t win then either.


21 posted on 09/04/2019 11:04:19 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wow what globalist pigswill.


22 posted on 09/05/2019 1:29:43 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Farcesensitive

I have no idea what you just wrote, but I like your last sentence in conclusionn.


23 posted on 09/05/2019 1:38:31 AM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Farcesensitive

I think you have a good analysis, but you are missing one possibility:

The EU wants the UK to remain.

I can see the EU grant an extension if a no-deal Brexit is looming, throwing a life-line to the Remain MPs.


24 posted on 09/05/2019 3:26:29 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Farcesensitive
Boris will, I think, now not recommend to the Queen any legislation passed by the House he does not like (i.e. The further delay Bill). No Royal Assent, no Law

I think in that case the Mob may vote to remove the Queen. The Hate against a UK and an England is strong with these EU craven zombies.

25 posted on 09/05/2019 3:36:46 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever. my)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hardly. Boris can just block the Remoaners by advising the Queen not to give Royal Assent.

If anybody complains, he can just remind them that they can have a vote of no confidence and hold a general election if they wish.

Checkmate. Brexit goes ahead OR put the issue before the voters in a general election. Those are your only two options.


26 posted on 09/05/2019 4:09:07 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Farcesensitive

Particularly if an election is held and Nigel can more effectively keep Boris from reverting to the May Brexit, which in material ways would be worse than no Brexit at all.


27 posted on 09/05/2019 4:13:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker (.)
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To: Cronos; Always A Marine

The Express

https://www.express.co.uk/latest/brexit

The sun

https://www.thesun.co.uk/?s=Brexit


28 posted on 09/05/2019 4:24:41 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: SteveH; Always A Marine

Thanks Steve — AAM, I always suggest reading both sides of the argument - every issue is colored by the media reporting it. So read the sun/mirror and the guardian and the truth is somewhere in-between.


29 posted on 09/06/2019 1:13:15 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: epluribus_2
The Queen is above Leave/Remain

Suzanne Evans, a Brexit campaigner for Leavers of Britain, hit out at the Queen through quote-tweeting a post from Andrew Lilico, the executive director and principle of Europe Economics.

In his tweet, Lilico said: “If the Monarchy cannot even intervene, one way or another, in a matter such as the Cooper-Letwin Bill, it is absurd to believe it could stand up against an elected Communist or fascist Parliament.

If the Monarchy cannot even intervene, one way or another, in a matter such as the Cooper-Letwin Bill, it is absurd to believe it cld stand up against an elected Communist or Fascist Parliament. Our monarchy has demonstrated itself no longer fit for purpose, alas. https://t.co/JyI4wbrEYb— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) April 9, 2019


30 posted on 09/06/2019 1:15:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The EU most definitely now does not want the UK to remain. Brussels refuse to guarantee Brexit extension as France and Germany could BLOCK delay
BORIS JOHNSON has been handed an unlikely boost to his pledge to deliver Brexit by October 31 as EU leaders could still yet reject an Article 50 extension after Remainers thwarted the Prime Minister’s attempt to trigger a general election.

Leaders are unlikely to sanction a third extension to the EU’s two-year Article 50 exit clause without cast-iron guarantees of a general election, EU sources have warned. In a boost to Brexiteers, signs have emerged that EU capitals are ready to cut ties with Britain amid growing frustrations with long-lasting Westminster deadlock.

...Previously EU leaders have warned that they will not be forthcoming with a third offer to delay the UK’s divorce.

Any Article 50 extension requires unanimous support amongst the EU’s remaining 27 leaders, so could easily be thwarted.

EU diplomats warned that the bloc’s willingness to consider an extension will hinge on Britain setting out a clear roadmap for how more time could lead to an outcome and legal guarantees that the Government would not disrupt EU affairs.

"When I hear the British saying 'Give us three months more and we will solve the problem', we can see that another six months would not solve the problem, nor another three months. "They have to be able to tell us what they want."

She added: "We know what they don't want but we are still struggling to understand what they do want."

The EU can only grant an extension if the UK asks for it - the UK controls that requesting

And the other 27 countries do not have a unanimous agreement on extension - especially since it seems that there is no way any kind of agreement could be made even with a 1 year extension. the uk is in paralysis

31 posted on 09/06/2019 1:22:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

The remain crows will try to throw Boris Johnson out after October 31, then ask the EU for more time.

The people of the UK have been scared into remaining and that election will be the second referendum the remain crowd wants.

Mark my words.


32 posted on 09/06/2019 2:26:08 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If Boris is thrown out after October 31, Brexit will have already happened.

The other 27 countries see no point in “more time” considering the UK has already used 6 months and done nothing.

Another election will create another divided house.

Another referendum will create another close decision.

Let’s be clear - the odds of some kind of Brexit happening is nearly 100% and the odds of hard, no-deal Brexit on October 31, 2019 is between 90% to 95%


33 posted on 09/06/2019 2:31:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

I think you do not understand the global socialists very well....they will not let the UK go easily and many MPs are working with the EU to derail Brexit in any form.


34 posted on 09/06/2019 2:44:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No MPs are working with the eu.

On the contrary, the eu is stating it will not grant another extension


35 posted on 09/06/2019 3:40:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

We will see.

After the Teresa May delays in negotiating, I predicted the global socialists were working hard to derail any Brexit unless the punishment was massive.

I stand by that the desire to have a second referendum and to stop Brexit is stronger than ever.

I predict the UK will not leave.

Let’s bet.


36 posted on 09/06/2019 3:54:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Erik Latranyi

1. “Theresa May delays in negotiating” — hmmm... what delays? She sent David Davis, a leading LEAVE campaigner to negotiate. He did negotiate and came back with a UK-eu agreement in November 2018.

What delays in negotiating do you mean?

2. “socialists working hard to derail any Brexit” - the withdrawal agreement was negotiated by a leading LEAVE campaigner David Davis - who derailed that?

3. The desire for a second referendum was strong until July. Now even the staunchest remainers have realized that they can’t necessarily win a second referendum and even if they do, that it won’t stop a future Brexit. So there is little to no desire for a second referendum any more.

I predict the UK will leave on Oct 31 - 90% sure today


37 posted on 09/06/2019 4:24:15 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos
I always suggest reading both sides of the argument

Standard practice, and wise.

38 posted on 09/06/2019 5:51:17 AM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Cronos
Red Corbyn wants to wait until after the Brexit crash out and then have election s where he expects to win

Bingo. He expects there will be some short-term chaos after a no-deal Brexit (shortages of food and medicine, maybe even resumption of sectarian violence in Ireland) and that the public will blame Johnson.

I hope he's wrong, but that's his strategy.

39 posted on 09/06/2019 10:52:30 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: SteveH
The Scottish Sun has a different perspective:


40 posted on 09/06/2019 12:37:39 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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