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Trump Administration Considering Social Credit Score System To Determine Who Can Buy A Gun
Summit News ^ | 09/04/19 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 09/04/2019 9:32:31 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Would partner with Big Tech to use spy data from Amazon, Google and Apple.

The Trump administration is considering launching a social credit score-style system in coordination with Big Tech that would use spy data collected from Amazon, Google and Apple devices to determine whether or not an individual can own a gun.

“The proposal is part of an initiative to create a Health Advanced Research Projects Agency (HARPA), which would be located inside the Health and Human Services Department,” reports the Daily Caller. “The new agency would have a separate budget and the president would be responsible for appointing its director.”

HARPA would employ “breakthrough technologies with high specificity and sensitivity for early diagnosis of neuropsychiatric violence,” including Apple Watches, Amazon Echo and Google Home.

In other words, data collected from devices that spy on private conversations and closely monitor user behavior would be used to strip Americans of their fundamental rights.

“Though the proposal is starting as a voluntary data collection scheme allegedly aimed at finding warning signs of mental illness, we all know so-called “voluntary” government programs often become mandatory at the drop of a hat,” comments Chris Menahan.

According to the Washington Post, Trump has reacted “very positively” to the idea.

The full scope of the program is chilling and would provide Big Tech with an easy excuse to formally impose the total neuro-surveillance of citizens via their smart phone and home assistant devices, something that has already been occurring surreptitiously for years.

One wonders if Trump has any idea of the slippery slope this would entail, or whether he was sold on the idea because Ivanka cried.

The proposal bears some similarities to Communist China’s social credit score system, where citizens’ behavior is tightly surveilled and then met with rewards or punishments.

 

(Excerpt) Read more at summit.news ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; buy; creditscore; fakenews; guns; harpa; pauljosephwatson; pjw; socialcredit; trumpbanglist; trumpsocialcredit; wapo
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To: Lockbox
My question is if you are not on Social Media, what will they use for a score?

Everyone does... FreeRepublic is social media. A Yahoo!/Outlook/Gmail account is social media... missing platforms are just as telling as ones that exist.
121 posted on 09/04/2019 11:37:25 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover

Perhaps - but anonymity on disparate platforms doesn’t allow what you’re talking about, unless there are warrants requesting deeper information on the various accounts here.


122 posted on 09/04/2019 11:38:35 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: one4perl
anonymity

You're kidding right? I've worked in eCommerce for over 20 years, almost since the web began, for fotune 100 companies.

Despite folks best efforts (Tor, Brave, etc etc etc), it's very easy to establish who you are and what sites you visit. This is shared and accessible to anyone who wants it.

If you visit our site, I know who you are with almost 100% certainty and that you visited here and everywhere else.

People do not realize what data is shared... I know, we share and consume it. You're anything but anonymous.
123 posted on 09/04/2019 11:42:18 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover

So a site like Freerepublic you could do that too? What if there are no trackers here?


124 posted on 09/04/2019 11:44:32 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: Skywise

sadly, no.


125 posted on 09/04/2019 11:44:56 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: TexasGunLover

I can’t speak for Brave, although I do use it on my phone for its ad blocking capabilities, but I also run my own tor relay.

Each browser session on the Tor Browser offers a new fingerprint via several measures and disables javascript by default. I know you’re proud of your technical skills, but with small changes in one’s browsing habits, you anonymous.


126 posted on 09/04/2019 11:48:57 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: one4perl
So a site like Freerepublic you could do that too? What if there are no trackers here?

1) There are on FR, and 2) Cookies are the most obvious way, but not one we've used in marketing data for a long time.

Here's what will really bake your noodle... even if you use cash we can tie those transactions in almost any retailer in the world, even if you've never used our platforms before. It's absolutely terrifying, but it all already exists and there is no putting the cat back in the bag...
127 posted on 09/04/2019 11:49:41 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Enlightened1
Hmmm... Is that horse manure I smell here???

Steenk'n Fake News Alert!

128 posted on 09/04/2019 11:50:08 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: TexasGunLover

A third party site can’t access FR’s cookies, why are you lying?

I’d like to hear more about your second point, as that sounds even further out of this world.


129 posted on 09/04/2019 11:50:37 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: one4perl
Each browser session on the Tor Browser offers a new fingerprint via several measures and disables javascript by default. I know you’re proud of your technical skills, but with small changes in one’s browsing habits, you anonymous.

LOL... your phone is unique and the marketing data doesn't depend on browser traffic. That data is purchased and shared from ISP's, wireless carriers, Home Depot, Kroger and is all cross referenced, easily.
130 posted on 09/04/2019 11:50:52 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: one4perl
Each browser session on the Tor Browser offers a new fingerprint via several measures and disables javascript by default. I know you’re proud of your technical skills, but with small changes in one’s browsing habits, you anonymous.

You're assuming cookies are how you're being tracked.
131 posted on 09/04/2019 11:51:23 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover

That’s precisely what the tor browser is designed to deter. I wasn’t specifically talking about the phone, although I’m sure you are correct about that, but on Windows for example, it changes its window size upon start up every time, which is but one of its features of preserving anonymity.

These are computer scientists that design this, not 2 bit “eCommerce” programmers.


132 posted on 09/04/2019 11:53:06 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: TexasGunLover

Going by what you mentioned - anything else then?


133 posted on 09/04/2019 11:53:36 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: one4perl
These are computer scientists that design this, not 2 bit “eCommerce” programmers.
As I said, if it makes you feel more comfortable, absolutely, by all means use Tor, VPN's and whatever else you want on whatever platform.

I can assure you, that if you shop at a major retailer with cash, credit card, in person, online, drive a car, take a bus, that the profile that is available provides you no anonymity.

It's important to realize that not all your transactions are protected by your methods. You drive, you ride, you shop, you browse you transmit, log on, etc... it's staggering what you leave behind when you think you're leaving nothing behind.
134 posted on 09/04/2019 11:57:17 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Enlightened1

Shall not be infringed. If this is true, trump is officially a gun grabber... as if the bump stock ban and red flag rules were not enough.

Lost my vote w even suggesting an unelected government boob determines my roght to self defense.
Guess he is tired of being prez.
I am sending a note w my non renewal for the NRA.. they have been quiet while he and every leftist in America accomplish something they never have before.
Is this going tp be a weekly or bi-weekly call for our guns?


135 posted on 09/04/2019 11:59:59 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: TexasGunLover

Tor can’t protect against government surveillance of other aspects of my life and correlating said data - I was writing about browser habits and tor in specific within the confines of its capabilities. It does what it does very well. VPNs are simply another layer of protection.

For the rest of what you wrote, I agree, there is no way around that.


136 posted on 09/04/2019 12:00:34 PM PDT by one4perl
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To: momincombatboots

Fake news mom. You sound like a never Trumper anyway.


137 posted on 09/04/2019 12:01:59 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: one4perl
For the rest of what you wrote, I agree, there is no way around that.

I like the concepts around Tor and VPN's, but the other trails you leave behind get associated with other behavior. I just want people to know it's not complicated to obtain that information, and in fact, people unwittingly agree to it by default and never realize it.
138 posted on 09/04/2019 12:03:40 PM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Enlightened1

If true & adopted, Trump deserves to lose reelection.


139 posted on 09/04/2019 12:03:58 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: alancarp

And i am sure the IRS and dept of ed are giving up their fully automatic assault rifles, NOAA too.


140 posted on 09/04/2019 12:04:05 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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