Posted on 09/02/2019 1:39:29 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
ODESSA, Texas (AP) The gunman in a spate of violence after a routine traffic stop in West Texas had just been fired from his job and called both police and the FBI before the shooting began, authorities said Monday.
Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator had been fired Saturday from Journey Oilfield Services. He said both Ator and the company called 911 after the firing but that Ator was gone by the time police showed up. FBI special agent Christopher Combs says Ators statements on the phone were rambling.
Authorities said Ator killed seven people and injured at least 22 others Saturday before officers killed him outside a busy movie theater in Odessa.
Combs said Ator was on a long spiral down before the shooting and that he went to work that day in trouble.
This did not happen because he was fired. He showed up to work enraged, said FBI special agent Christopher Combs of the suspected shooter.
Combs said the place where Ator lived was a strange residence and that the condition reflected what his mental state was going into this. He didnt elaborate.
Online court records show Ator was arrested in 2001 for a misdemeanor offense that would not have prevented him from legally purchasing firearms in Texas, although authorities have not said where Ator got the AR style weapon he used.
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Use to be the FBI investigated Communists then it was run by one.
It does seem “odd” to pull someone over simply for failure to signal a turn or lane change.
If such enforcement was commonplace I wouldn’t see so many infractions in a day.
I even see officers let cars run red lights, merge in intersections, and cut off other drivers without stopping them.
>>With someone who cannot be trusted with firearms, there is no way to remove everything from rocks, to knives, homemade explosives, ETC from their reach. THEY have to be removed if they are really a danger. THEY need to be locked up for treatment. Going after firearms instead of dealing with the person is proof that red flag laws are intended as a way to remove firearms and nothing more.
He could’ve done a lot of damage on a highway deliberately causing an accident or ramming through a crowd of people. And such mayhem does occur yet never once do I head about background checks for people applying for a drive’s license. No mental health evaluation for drivers either.
And Robert Francis O’Rourke penned his own bloodlust fantasy about driving a car into some children.
The media is just full of people "acting up". By that I mean that there are millions of Americans these days who don't think the rules apply to them or that there will be consequences for their actions.
Consider the out-of-control people who attack McDonald's employees because their fries are cold or because there was no pickle on their burger. I don't describe such people as "mentally ill". I prefer to describe them as self-centered, narcissistic, or EVIL. They think only of themselves and how the world is affecting them.
Much of this has come about due to the entitlement system we have implemented and the unwillingness to address misbehavior at all levels in society.
Starting at a very young age, children learn that they are not required to behave at school. The school authorities have been forbidden to set minimum behavioral standards. One example of the result is the situation with the Parkland shooter. Despite enough concern about him that he was to be searched before being allowed on the campus, he faced little else in consequence of his long standing transgressions.
Our politically correct environment now mandates that we not laugh and point when Bruce Jenner claims to be a woman. We are not allowed to ridicule the Mayor of South Bend who is a man "married" to a man.
We see antifa thugs hitting others in the head with heavy bike locks and chains and the perpetrator gets a slap on the wrist instead of the prison sentence he deserves.
Most of what we are seeing isn't "crazy". It is evil. People who are unable to get what they want strike out in rage rather than adjust their own behavior. We are suffering from several generations of failure to civilize our children and are now paying for it.
We are no longer the moral people for whom the Constitution was ratified. I see dark days ahead, but at my age I won't be around for much of them.
I believe you pretty much nailed it.
William, well stated! Coincidentally, just finished listening to “Why Johnny Can’t Think” a critique of schooling circa 1985 NYC. Corollary to inability to discipline is teachers forced to teach a irrational curriiculum.
I’m guessing that in a couple weeks we will find out that he was a government CI or some relationship with the police. The whole thing seems hinky including the disappearing social media posts.
Ya think?
I do think Hoover went to the dark side before he died. His last book was very profitable but an apology for the left.
No I did not work at a mental health hospital.
we've become a sick egotistical society where everybody thinks they can do what ever they want to....
Exactly. There are many ways to kill and injure large numbers of people without firearms.
How totally cool.
The body of the article posted should have said the same. It did not.
The FBI agent quoted in this article said the rambling was in the 911 call, but said nothing of an FBI call.
The other AP versions were complete and more clearly attributed. My beef was with the one posted, which was neither. Get the picture?
Great post.
Consider, too, the idiot leftists (in Hollyweird, in politics, in the media, etc.) who have said and wished vicious things about and to our President.
I always ask...can you even imagine if the press, a Republican, a celebrity, a sports figure ...anyone in the public eye....had said ANY of what’s been said about Trump, to Obamao?
Heads would’ve rolled, careers would’ve ended, etc. But today? With these sick leftists spewing their vile? NOTHING....no consequences, whatsoever.
Thanks, very much. I did read this improved AP version. Probably some air headed editor who preferred speed over accuracy got their hands on the same AP story and played beat the clock with the details that would confirm the title.
Well put.
My Mom was watching reruns of an old show called “Parking Wars” a couple nights ago, while we were visiting. I had never seen it before.
A very high % of the “offenders” are, perhaps not evil, but certainly fit your descriptions of “think they are entitled”, “don’t think the rules apply to them”, “uncivilized”, etc.
The scary part is that some of the “enforcement” (not so much real cops, but tow truck drivers, bureaucrats, etc.) are hardly any better.
Getting back to the mass murderers, are ANY of these creeps decent mainstream (or even remotely close) practicing Christians? I don’t think so...
A very high % of the offenders are, perhaps not evil, but certainly fit your descriptions of think they are entitled, dont think the rules apply to them, uncivilized, etc.
IMO that reflects a broader trend with Millenials. My friends and I have all noticed this in traffic when it comes to Millenial women drivers. The spoiled, entitled princess qualities play themselves out in very rude and aggressive driving habits.
I am so sick of fake news but there is a “fact” or fake news fact that comes out seemingly every mass shooting in that the FBI or police were notified of the perpetrator before the incident and previous incidents were just ignored/not handled.
Was just reading that the shooter had been declared incompetent by a court, so now they are trying to figure out how he got the gun.
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