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Men now avoid women at work – another sign we're being punished for #MeToo
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 8/29/2019 | Arwa Mahdawi

Posted on 08/30/2019 10:20:14 AM PDT by RightGeek

It looks like Mike Pence is quite the trendsetter. The US vice-president famously refuses to have dinner alone with any woman who isn’t his wife – and now working men across corporate America appear to be following his lead.

A new study, due to be published in the journal Organizational Dynamics, has found that, following the #MeToo movement, men are significantly more reluctant to interact with their female colleagues. A few highlights from the research include:

• 27% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female co-workers. Yep, that’s right, almost a third of men are terrified to be alone in a room with a woman.

• 21% of men said they would be reluctant to hire women for a job that would require close interaction (such as business travel).

• 19% of men would be reluctant to hire an attractive woman.

The data above was collected in early 2019 from workers across a wide range of industries. Researchers had asked the same questions (albeit to different people and with more of a focus on future expectations) in early 2018, just as #MeToo was in full swing, and depressingly, things appear to have got worse. In 2018, for example, 15% of men said they would be more reluctant to hire women for jobs that require close interpersonal interactions with women, compared to 21% in 2019.

It’s not just men who are afraid of women, by the way. Women also appear to be increasingly wary of hiring women. The 2018 survey results found that more than 10% of men and women said they expected to be less willing than before to hire attractive women. (Note: the 2019 results for women are not yet public.) ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: genderwars; goodnews; metoo; mikepence; winning; workplace
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To: Mariner

Only if you’re “woke”! Lol

Whatever happened to the saying, “put on your big girl panties”?

This special generation of wimmens is NOT gonna like what life throws at them when they decide to marry. And I can say this as a woman myself.

Future cat ladies


61 posted on 08/30/2019 10:51:02 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!!)
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To: RightGeek

This whine sounds remarkably similar to trannies complaining that straight men don’t see them as women and won’t date them.


62 posted on 08/30/2019 10:51:30 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: caseinpoint

Office romances are now extinct. Sad. A lot of good marriages came out of that. Great way to get to know someone in everyday, good & bad day life.

Feminazis have hurt women.


63 posted on 08/30/2019 10:51:30 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: RightGeek

I work in employee benefits and yep, most people I deal with are women in HR departments.

Back in the old days I would take a woman HR head to a business lunch all the time. No longer.

When I hit my 50’s I really started to be hit upon by these women I work with. I chalk it up to women in their 50’s dealing with midlife crisis or unhappy marriage.


64 posted on 08/30/2019 10:52:19 AM PDT by setter
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To: polymuser

I hear you. My husband and I met at work. We’ve been married since 1983.


65 posted on 08/30/2019 10:53:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Berosus

Interesting comment

I go lots of places and visit both offices and shops. Always, the watercoolers are gathering dust.

I suspect the gossip place is now the wireless copy machine where people gather while waiting for someone’s book to print out.


66 posted on 08/30/2019 10:54:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Terrified”?

Sadly, even considering all the situations you list, men’s default mode needs to be wary and/or terrified. Just because a woman is lazy, incompetent, a troublemaker, and has BO doesn’t mean she can’t concoct untrue accusations. Lies about a co-worker could ruin a man, destroy his family, and bankrupt him. The thought of that possibly happening is terrifying - or should be.


67 posted on 08/30/2019 10:54:41 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." A. Lincoln)
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To: trisham

“Working from home is a great option for some.”

I observe it happening more, as a result of this issue. Bosses don’t mind, it removes this potential problem, and removes drivetime risk, also.


68 posted on 08/30/2019 10:54:49 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

Absolutely.


69 posted on 08/30/2019 10:56:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Same with my sister. Happened a lot.


70 posted on 08/30/2019 10:56:28 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“. . . terrified to be alone in a room with a woman.”

I’d say, given the times we are living in, that men are damn smart to NOT “. . . be alone in a room with a woman” not their wife.

VPOTUS is setting a good example!


71 posted on 08/30/2019 10:56:31 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

Congratulations on your marriage success. We have just celebrated our 34th. Success either maritally or professionally happens when opposites treat each other with respect but also patience, tolerance and willingness to learn and change.


72 posted on 08/30/2019 10:57:09 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: RightGeek
FWIW, this is called having good sense. Been teaching in college for 20 years. Long before Title IX became a thing, before #metoo, I had a window in my office door, and unlike a lot of instructors, nothing ever covered it.

Never in the office alone with the door closed with a student of either sex. If a student is in my office, the door is open. Never alone in a car with a student.

Make sure everyone knows it.

Best defense is being able to prove you were NEVER alone with someone.

73 posted on 08/30/2019 10:57:09 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: RightGeek

AS we saw with Justice Kavenaugh, men are also being punished for #metoo.


74 posted on 08/30/2019 10:57:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: polymuser

:)


75 posted on 08/30/2019 10:57:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RightGeek
Yep, that’s right, almost a third of men are terrified to be alone in a room with a woman.

The author's credentials as an analyst just went ker-plunk! Here's a jar of M&M's, my dear. One of them is poisoned. How many of them are you going to eat? Are you "punishing" the good ones by avoiding them all?

76 posted on 08/30/2019 10:58:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: bert

I had one job where I was always out of the loop on what was going on because my supervisor was a smoker and I’m not.

I would always be the last to hear the gossip, getting it third-hand from one of the other employees who smoked.

The entire information exchange was outside in the parking lot where the smokers took their cigarette breaks together. I was never there.


77 posted on 08/30/2019 10:59:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: rarestia

” men don’t want to be seen alone with a woman and get “Kavanaugh’d.””

Well, strictly speaking, you don’t need to have ever been alone with the woman or even have met her to be “Kavanaugh’d”.


78 posted on 08/30/2019 10:59:18 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rktman

I started working for IBM in 1985. There was a rule that if a manager was meeting alone with a member of the opposite sex, the manager’s office door had to stay open.

Where I work now, all managers’ offices have one entire wall that’s made of glass, or if that’s not possible, the manager’s office door has a good-sized window in it.

We also now have an entire HR “Compliance” department whose only purpose is to investigate employee complaints about sexual harassment, general harassment, bullying behavior, etc.

I am actually glad we have this department because they thoroughly investigate and deal with abusive and sleazy employees—front line and management. They look at EVERYTHING when they investigate: video from hidden security cameras, emails, content in company cell phones and computers, social media activity, lots of witness interviews.

There was a nasty @sshole I had to work with for years, he was a classic workplace bully, treated me and a lot of other employees very badly. There was probably 6 or 7 times when I went to my management (men) and to his management (men). All the men shrugged their shoulders and made excuses for his bad behavior(literally: “He’s not all bad,” “He’s the best engineer we have,” blah blah BLAH ) About 8 years ago he bullied and humiliated me in front of others for the last time. I went to my new manager, a woman, and she was horrified by this guy’s behavior and the fact that his good old boy network repeatedly looked the other way. She made sure HR investigated this bully, and he “retired” within three months of the investigation.


79 posted on 08/30/2019 11:00:13 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: caseinpoint

Thank you for the kind words...it takes a special person to put up with me for all these decades.
And congratulations to you as well.


80 posted on 08/30/2019 11:00:46 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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