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IG Report just dropped (Comey violated policy, but will not prosecute)
DOJ ^ | 8/29/2019

Posted on 08/29/2019 7:21:31 AM PDT by grayboots

Full report at link


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4dchess; abovethelaw; civilwar2; comey; deepstate; dojigreport; ighorowitz; intent; nointent; obamalegacy; thefixer; thefixisin; trusttheplan; weasel
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To: Pravious
-- Every DAY... EVERY SINGLE DAY that millions of Americans see NO justice being handed out for outright sedition and criminal cover-ups of it in this country they are either getting more and more angry with, or more and more disillusioned with our system of "justice" - neither of which is at ALL healthy for a functioning society. --

In large part because the public has been fed expectations that are contrary to the way things work. Most people leap the conclusion that a leak of classified information is a crime. That is MOSTLY FALSE. People think that overthrow of the government by subterfusge is a crime. IT IS NOT. It is only a crime when the overthrow is by violence.

The myths are advance by actors in the government who want the public to be mis-informed. The fundamental falsehood is that government is good. No, government is not good, it is a necessary EVIL. The people that are paid to be in the government benefit from adabancing the myths that government is a force for good. They are there to get the bad guys, and by golly without the government, your lives would be miserable. And the more government you get, the better off you will be, etc., ad nauseum.

Comey and company were and are involved in a palace coup becuase whoever is in power gets great benefit at the expense of the public.

141 posted on 08/29/2019 9:43:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

guess violating policy means you can be fired and nothing else. no crime which is a laugh.


142 posted on 08/29/2019 9:43:48 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Cboldt

Deciding not to prosecute A CRIME is not the same as ‘exonerating’ him.

And this worthless POS has the nerve to ask for an APOLOGY???


143 posted on 08/29/2019 9:45:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: centurion316
...but the is a long game and it’s still early.

Check your watch. It's getting very late.

144 posted on 08/29/2019 9:45:42 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

That is referring to the previous IG report of factual findings. Today’s report is a separate report regarding “whether Comey’s actions violated Department or FBI policy, or the terms of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement. As described in this report, we conclude that Comey’s retention, handling, and dissemination of certain Memos violated Department and FBI policies, and his FBI Employment Agreement.”

Of course, this is probably a distinction without a difference; if he wasn’t prosecuted for the findings that he criminally leaked documents to the media, I can’t see him being prosecuted for violations of policy or an employment contract.

Included in my disappointment is what I detect (as an attorney reading the report), there are a number of false choices set up to reach a predetermined outcome. Every effort is made to parse meanings about whether the documents were or were not classified. In some cases, the FBI itself was relied on to make determinations of whether the documents, in retrospect, should be considered classified. Yes, the same FBI that has been covering the agency’s butt with relentless stonewalling and obfuscation, the same one that has a new boss (Wray) just like the old boss, whose primary mission is to protect tha agency and not to honestly investigate its own lawlessness.


145 posted on 08/29/2019 9:46:32 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Mr. K

And this worthless POS has the nerve to ask for an APOLOGY???


Well, he deserves one. People have been calling him a criminal and clearly that is not going to be the case when all is said and done here.


146 posted on 08/29/2019 9:48:41 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Cboldt

Comey and company were and are involved in a palace coup becuase whoever is in power gets great benefit at the expense of the public.


That would be the Uniparty who gets those benefits. That this is a bipartisan coup becomes clearer by the day.


147 posted on 08/29/2019 9:50:46 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: George Rand
-- ... say Obama had won an election and a Bush official had leaked information to the press, that there would have been a full blitzkrieg media campaign to ensure that individual was charged to the full extent of the law. --

Indeed, and even if there was no crime, see framing Trump for "Russian collusion" whatever that is.

Our press is fundamentally dishonest too. In bed with the power players, drunk on their own sense of self-importance hob knobbing with government officials and so on. This is a fantasic gravy train, and most of them are fellow travelers.

I don't have a problem with the outcome of "leaking presidential conversations is not a crime." The problem I have is that the public is being led into a false dichotomy, that if something is not criminal, it is justified.

Same idea of not having a problem that a lying press is not criminal. The problem is that people credit the press with honesty (or not), and few people bother to figure out what the truth actually is. Lord knows the press has a mission to inhibit this. The press and academia want to gatekeep and control the public's view of the world. They cannot be trusted.

148 posted on 08/29/2019 9:52:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: grayboots

Lawless Plutocracy USA - bump for later....


149 posted on 08/29/2019 9:55:34 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: jjotto
The point oif FISA courts is muti-fold. FISA was created after the Keith case. The government argued that it didn't need a warrant to spy for foreign intelligence. The court agreed. The flip side is that without a warrant, the info can't be used to prosecute a crime.

Congress didn't want to tell the public the truth, that the government can spy without a warrant, so created FISA to make a cushy job for lawers and judges, and hide the fact from the public, that the government spies its ass off without warrants.

All for your own protection, of course. Otherwise people like Trump might get elected.

150 posted on 08/29/2019 9:55:41 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Steve Van Doorn
-- The report clearly said, a confidential memo was shared with the NYT. That is criminal. --

That depends on the contents of the confidential memo. Looking at the contents of these confidential memos, no crime.

If you think it is a crime, cite the crimial statute that has been violated.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/secrecy/law-leaks.pdf
CRS R41404 - Criminal Prohibitions on Leaks

151 posted on 08/29/2019 10:01:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: grayboots

Has CNN hired him yet?


152 posted on 08/29/2019 10:01:44 AM PDT by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt
-- Everybody is shocked! --

Shocked to find out that gambling is going on here.

153 posted on 08/29/2019 10:03:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rbmillerjr
More like ...

This is basically giving any FBI/CIA political the right to attempt to illegally spur a coup via a Special Counsel against the duly elected President of the United States of America.

Palace intrigue is legal. Abusing power is not a crime unless it denies a person certain civil rights. Nobody was denied the right to vote, there is no "right to be president" or "right to not be defamed by the government."

Not all corruption is illegal. In fact, only small slivers of corruption are illegal. The government is essentially a "lie machine," very little of what it tells the public is truthful. All perfectly legal.

154 posted on 08/29/2019 10:09:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: grayboots
How did you conclude there will be no prosecution based on this report? Here are the final two paragraphs; please note the last line:
We have previously faulted Comey for acting unilaterally and inconsistent with Department policy.103 Comey’s unauthorized disclosure of sensitive law enforcement information about the Flynn investigation merits similar criticism. In a country built on the rule of law, it is of utmost importance that all FBI employees adhere to Department and FBI policies, particularly when confronted by what appear to be extraordinary circumstances or compelling personal convictions. Comey had several other lawful options available to him to advocate for the appointment of a Special Counsel, which he told us was his goal in making the disclosure. What was not permitted was the unauthorized disclosure of sensitive investigative information, obtained during the course of FBI employment, in order to achieve a personally desired outcome.

The OIG has provided this report to the FBI and to the Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility for action they deem appropriate.


155 posted on 08/29/2019 10:24:24 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: centurion316
The IG doesn’t prosecute, that is the decision of the AG and the professional prosecutors of the DOJ... th[is] is a long game and it’s still early.

Why inject commonsense into a "bombshell" FR thread? (sarc)

It's getting like a tabloid around here.

156 posted on 08/29/2019 10:26:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: grayboots

But of course. Comey is good to go but anybody that talked friendly to Trump in the last 40 years should be in jail.


157 posted on 08/29/2019 10:27:34 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: gaijin

Thanks for reposting that. Anyone who has been paying attention has known we’ve had a feral government for decades.


158 posted on 08/29/2019 10:33:10 AM PDT by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: wastoute

So apparently, there is in fact two sets of laws in this Country now... one for assholes like Comey, Hillary, Brennan, Lerner, Strozk, Page, etc., and another set for us.

“Lock her up”...

Uh huh.


159 posted on 08/29/2019 10:34:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GoDuke

Do they even recommend or no?


160 posted on 08/29/2019 10:36:11 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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