Posted on 08/29/2019 4:39:44 AM PDT by marktwain
On 15 March 2019, a political terrorist attacked two mosques located in Christchurch, New Zealand. He killed 51 people and wounded many more. The far-left government of Jacinda Ardem immediately set on a course to ban semi-automatic firearms in New Zealand. Those opposed were shouted down. The government censor worked hard to keep the public from reading the manifesto published by the terrorist. That conveniently prevented people from knowing that gun confiscation was one of his goals. When academic John Lott pointed this out on Twitter, he was banned.
Initial reports were few guns were being turned in, partly because of doubts about the accuracy of compensation the government was willing to pay.
The picture above is from the first turn-in event at the Riccarton Racecourse in Christchurch, New Zealand, on July 13th, at the first event of the turn-in.
224 firearms were turned in at that event, as well as 217 accessories. Legal gun owners had registered 905 guns on line to be turned in. 169 gun owners showed up. Compensation paid for guns and accessories was $433,682 NZ dollars. The highest compensation paid to one gun owner was $13,000 NZ dollars. The total averages to a bit less than $2000 per gun (NZ).
Since the initial legislation, the NZ Prime Minister has put forward a test balloon pushing the idea of mandatory gun registration, in part, because the government does not know who has the guns they want to ban. The P.M. claimed this was the plan all along. It is hard to believe. From stuff.co.nz:
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
Despite gun owner non-compliance, NZ is really a land of sheep.
Never register your stuff.
When I was still living there, there was a murder in northern kalifornia of two campers. The weapon used was a Marlin Camp Carbine. 45 ACP IIRC.
The police went to all the gun dealers in the area and "asked" for all the 4473s that involved the sale or transfer of Marlin Camp Carbines. According to the Sacramento Bee, every dealer complied.
The police then went to every owner of the model gun to "request" they be allowed to test it. Again, according to the Bee, every owner complied.
They didn't catch the killer from that tactic, but it sure was an eye opener. Every gun bought through a FFL, whether the state is a "registration" state or not, is registered. So to speak.
Believe me, the Government has access to all ATF Forms if they want them. Do you really think the forms are destroyed after the background check is completed? It may not be called “Official” registration but I think the information is there and ready to be used if the Feds want it. Really.
As far as I know, it does not say what type of gun was purchased, or if one was actually purchased, on the form.
Better take inventory of your guns to see which ones in the last 50 years were bought when you filled out a form 4473, and which ones were not.
From what I’ve read, all the 4473s are kept by the gun store and turned over to the BATF only after the store goes out of business. BUT I’ve also heard the FBI who does the background checks also keeps a list.
They KNOW I have three CMP rifles and they MIGHT eventually come for two of them. Then they will look at my age, and I can kiss the third 100 year old bolt action rifle “BYE!”.
Mandatory registration is ALWAYS followed by confiscation.
Yup,
That said
We are in the
Machine!
Say what, now?
How did they determine the weapon used?
It doesn’t say on the form what type of gun is being purchased, or if one was actually purchased.
It’s just a background check with a series of background questions on it.
I am well acquainted with how that works. I also know that if you sell to someone privately in a deep red state with no UBC(yet) it is largely lost in tall weeds from the confiscators’ vantage point.
Turn it over. Maybe your FFL dealer filled it in unnoticed. I assure you that the make, model and serial number(s) are on the back, and are given to the party doing the NICS.
If that is the case, it further does not show whether or not I still have the gun.
No, but some States have mandatory requirements to transfer firearms through an FFL. Thus, any firearm purchased after the effective date of those laws is on the purchaser of most recent record.
Far as I remember, they broke, so I just tossed ‘em.
It’s been a while. Memory is kinda foggy these days, hmmm.
I’m sure that if it comes to confiscation, there are gonna be a lot of boating accidents that the police will hear about. They probably wouldn’t mind holding people until they can come up with a better story.
Actually, the type is specifically answered (Question #16 on the 4473 page 2). Handgun, Long-gun (rife/shotgun), or Other.
That is if those people are where they are expected to be.
They may be elsewhere doing things other than sitting around waiting to be arrested by the SS.
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