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Putin built a hypersonic arsenal, while the Pentagon slept
The Hill ^ | 8/26/2019 | DOV S. ZAKHEIM

Posted on 08/28/2019 9:01:01 PM PDT by bitt

In the course of his lengthy annual address to the Russian Federal Assembly this year, President Vladimir Putin excoriated the United States for abandoning the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty while asserting that “the work on promising prototypes and weapon systems that I spoke about in my Address last year continues as scheduled and without disruptions.”

Putin went on to say that Russia had entered serial production of the Avangard hypersonic glide system, which was to be deployed later in 2019. He added that the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, which he asserted was “of unprecedented power,” was in the test stage, as was the Peresvet laser missile and air-defense weapon, likewise to be deployed this year. He noted that the Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile, having undergone operational testing, “proved [its] unique characteristics during test and combat alert missions while the personnel learned how to operate them.” Finally, he asserted that the Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile “of unlimited range,” and the Poseidon nuclear-powered unmanned underwater vehicle, were successfully undergoing tests.

Since Putin’s speech in February, the work on at least one of those systems has suffered rather serious “disruption.” Despite Putin’s assertion that Burevestnik missile testing was going well, it was that very missile that Western analysts believe was being tested when a nuclear explosion, first reported earlier this month, killed seven scientists and forced an initial evacuation order for at least one nearby village because of potential exposure to deadly radiation.

Failures in the early or even later stages of systems development are not uncommon. Moreover, the Russians have a high tolerance for test failures; this is not always the case with respect to American weapons development. In any event, Moscow is moving ahead with the development of its other nuclear armed systems and is certain to continue testing

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: granadatroll; hypersonic; keywordtroll; norsevikingtroll; obamalegacy; pentagon; putin; russiantrolls
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To: NorseViking

But one might draw conclusions out of these facts.


They test a bunch, a few explosions and other failures, some people die, but finally make one that works and then make the one they deploy. Done.

Then, they tout the machine to 3rd world countries, who buy a few of the export model;
then, the Russians pick up some wealthier country like Turkey to whom they sell manufacturing rights (S-400, S-500, SU-57) and use that money to make 10 more of each item for deployment.


21 posted on 08/29/2019 1:52:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Of course it’s fake news. We have been running hypersonic surveillance platforms on them for decades.


22 posted on 08/29/2019 2:27:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: NorseViking

Ridiculous. There is no link between owning a gun and aggression. THere is a direct link between ideological fanaticism and violence, regardless the weapon at hand. Aggression can occur actively or passively (neglect) with or without weapon. A state or police that reacts passively to a nation in distress is a prime example of weaponless violence. THey drop weapon, pretend they are for peace, and do nothing to rescue people from attack.


23 posted on 08/29/2019 2:29:28 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: bitt

bkmk


24 posted on 08/29/2019 2:37:54 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: bitt

Putin built a hypersonic arsenal, while the Pentagon slept


Then it blew up in his face and irradiated a bunch of his scientists.


25 posted on 08/29/2019 2:49:34 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: NorseViking

It’s about time that media claim Trump’s border wall plan makes Pentagon have no budget to develop new weapons that are crucial for defending Americanism and LGBTQ crusade.


26 posted on 08/29/2019 2:50:58 AM PDT by granada
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To: granada

Haha, man these journalists do nothing but twist and contort themselves to try and make Trump look bad. The leftists in my family, to a man, say this exact point on spending: Every social program could be funded if it wasn’t for all the military spending.

Now, all of a sudden, we are letting muh Russia get a leg up on us with ‘new Russian super-weapon’. What’s the media’s point here? Are they clamoring for increased spending to produce our own super weapons? Make up your minds!

Whatever, you can see one of their many narrative spurs forming. Look for this to be brought up at the next DNC debate by 1 or more of the knuckleheads. This is just the Journ0list doing its job.


27 posted on 08/29/2019 2:59:46 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: bitt

President Obama found his private moment of political candor caught by a live microphone on Monday as he told President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia that he would have “more flexibility” to negotiate on the delicate issue of missile defense after the November election, which Mr. Obama apparently feels confident he will win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/us/politics/obama-caught-on-microphone-telling-medvedev-of-flexibility.html

Obama was the the American President in collusion with Russia.

The Left ALWAYS accuses others of exactly what it is they themselves are responsible for. ALWAYS.

Surprise suprise suprise.....


28 posted on 08/29/2019 3:32:21 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: NorseViking

“The Russians aren’t coming to conquer Europe let alone US.”

famous last words ...


29 posted on 08/29/2019 3:54:20 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bitt

ping


30 posted on 08/29/2019 4:16:23 AM PDT by happytrumper
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To: bitt

Middletown, Connecticut has a radioactive park where our “unlimited range Nuclear Cruise missile” plant used to be.

Tell you kids not to play there too long, or eat the dirt.

Putin still thinks its 1978. When his people realize they are still living like its 1978, they are going to be pissed.


31 posted on 08/29/2019 4:17:45 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: bitt

Middletown, Connecticut has a radioactive park where our “unlimited range Nuclear Cruise missile” plant used to be.

Tell you kids not to play there too long, or eat the dirt.

Putin still thinks its 1978. When his people realize they are still living like its 1978, they are going to be pissed.


32 posted on 08/29/2019 4:17:45 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: UNGN

I live near a former nuclear-aircraft test area.

When we moved into the area, I spent some time studying maps to familiarize with roads. Noticed a 1 square mile area oddly devoid of roads. “It’s Area 51” wife said. She wasn’t far off.

Radiation is mostly down to normal background levels. Just stay out of fenced off areas.


33 posted on 08/29/2019 4:36:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: NorseViking

The pursuit of rare elements, oil and other valuable natural resources for the technology and transportation sector is real.
Russia made a few runs into Alaskan airspace. They are already heavily vested in Cuba and s America.
They are doing some neat nationalist tricks, but we shouldn’t stop sleeping with one eye open..


34 posted on 08/29/2019 4:38:38 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: JudgemAll
Ridiculous. There is no link between owning a gun and aggression. THere is a direct link between ideological fanaticism and violence, regardless the weapon at hand.

There is a very direct link between having weapons exports being one of your country's main source of income, and having to demonstrate the effectiveness of your weapons.

When the 1991 Gulf War resulted in our wiping out the Soviet-equipped and trained Iraqi military without even trying hard, the world took notice. The USSR collapsed just a few months later.

35 posted on 08/29/2019 4:46:05 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: NorseViking
Pentagon got itself some nice INF bases in Romania and Poland.

You mean the ones built to protect Europe from...Iran?

I distinctly remember being told by the resident neocons those bases had no offensive capabilities.

36 posted on 08/29/2019 5:03:35 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: NorseViking

“Between 1925-1990 Russia almost every year outspent US of military and often by a big factor.”

These days the GDP of Russia is about that of Italy. They can’t come close to what we spend by several orders of magnitude. And the rub is what they spent the money on and how effectively they spent it.

Right now they can barely support the troops they have now let alone field and sustain an army that could seriously threaten any country that isn’t directly attached to them.

Are these weapons a concern? Sure. Are they the Doomsday machines Putin says they are? Most likely not.

L


37 posted on 08/29/2019 5:11:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: bitt

This arms race is happening because key neocon Republicans fell for the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax created by the Democrats. Putin was no different after the hoax began than he was before.


38 posted on 08/29/2019 5:19:04 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: bitt

He added that the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile:

Yes, but what use will it be if the arhead device cannot be sustained at those speeds ( witness the recent radio active explosion in Russia on a test bed.)

Russia is a long way from perfecting its hyper-sonic missile.

Right now its a shot in the dark weapon.It can go so fast that it can fly right on by, and detonate a fart.


39 posted on 08/29/2019 5:45:04 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: PapaBear3625

“When the 1991 Gulf War resulted in our wiping out the Soviet-equipped and trained Iraqi military without even trying hard, the world took notice. The USSR collapsed just a few months later.”

I doubt many of Russia’s customers expected their past-generation products to take on the latest US technology. If your AA and tanks are being hit before you even see the enemy, you’re done.

Maybe a few other god-king madmen in league with Saddam thought they would stand a chance


40 posted on 08/29/2019 5:51:59 AM PDT by varyouga
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