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Under Trump, the deficit has ballooned, exploding a GOP myth
cnn ^ | 08/24/2019 | Julian Zelizer

Posted on 08/28/2019 12:45:49 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Lie. When Obama took office, the ratio of public debt to GDP was less than 40%. When he left office, it was more than 76%. Now it’s a little bit more than 78%.


41 posted on 08/28/2019 1:07:01 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Parmy
He has no 'line item' veto. He either has to sign the whole budget or veto the whole budget.

Every president has that problem.

But, during the 'O' years there was no budgets, only continuing spending resolutions.

Then it should be easier for the Republicans to cut spending.

42 posted on 08/28/2019 1:07:03 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: xp38

That’s how I see it as well. I’ve also said that, though I love trump, our deficit problem is beyond human intervention. All trump or any other future president can do is ride this bronco out along with the rest of us. We jumped off this cliff decades ago, and it’s gonna hurt when we hit the rocks below. All any president can do is put off the inevitable as long as possible.


43 posted on 08/28/2019 1:07:43 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Jim Robinson

hasn’t he tried and is continually blocked by ALL of Congress?


44 posted on 08/28/2019 1:12:43 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: KC Burke

[ This is CNN. They are FAKE NEWS and lies.]

YES


45 posted on 08/28/2019 1:13:43 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dp0622
"It’s also important to take GDP growth into account as debt to GDP ratio is looked at as a very important number."

I hate using GDP as a reliable metric. About 1/3 of GDP is government spending.

That'd be like me saying, "My spending on my hot rods and boats ain't so bad relative to how much I put on credit."

46 posted on 08/28/2019 1:13:50 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As long as we have to maintain a huge military, and as long as we have to pay for the huge social programs WHICH THE DEMOCRATS created (with the help of many republicans), the deficits will not decrease by meaningful amounts, and the federal debt will continue to balloon.

In other words, the deficits and national debt could be considered “legacy spending” numbers, since, they ain’t going away any time soon, and Trump had very little to do with their increased sizes.


47 posted on 08/28/2019 1:15:27 PM PDT by adorno
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To: glorgau

You said:That’s on Congress, not on Trump.

True, but Trump choked. Twice.


48 posted on 08/28/2019 1:16:33 PM PDT by amihow
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Tea Party Republicans once railed against President Barack Obama’s spending habits. As the deficit has grown under Trump, however, they’ve suddenly changed their tune. “

We haven’t “changed our tune.” The path to a reduced deficit is cutting waste—something President Trump is for but requires the cooperation of a willing Congress.

The biggest thing we need to change is borrowing to hand out charity. Charity is a religious duty, not the Constitutional role of our federal government. For the left, their political ideology is a religion. But they do not want to follow the prohibition against Congress establishing a religion. No, they are always willing to dig deep (into America’s pocket) for every cause under the sun.


49 posted on 08/28/2019 1:19:27 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I agree with you. I was just noting the lie that deficit is ballooning.


50 posted on 08/28/2019 1:21:13 PM PDT by xp38
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To: ChicagoConservative27

BLAME RYAN AND THE RINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


51 posted on 08/28/2019 1:21:38 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: kempster

Bill Clinton didn’t lead that. Newt Gingrich did. Clinton was along for the ride, and that’s about all.

People give the guy too much credit.


52 posted on 08/28/2019 1:23:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: KC Burke; musicman; Grampa Dave; Fiddlstix



53 posted on 08/28/2019 1:35:45 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

President Trump has tried to get Congress to stop government spending, to no avail as Congress controls the budget.


54 posted on 08/28/2019 1:36:10 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DoodleDawg

Oh OK, from previous threads on it, it sounded like they were moving half of USDA to KC, then I also read that of those affected half were quitting.


55 posted on 08/28/2019 1:40:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: qaz123

Yup. The spending is on the congress. Tax receipts are actually increasing with more people working.


56 posted on 08/28/2019 1:41:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: colorado tanker

Unfortunate this is wrong, tax receipts dropped a small amount in 2018, the first year with the tax reform in effect. It was largely due to a big drop in corporate tax revenue, and somewhat offset by an increase in tariffs. Income tax revenue also dropped slightly. Combined with a boost in spending, and we have increased debt and deficit.


57 posted on 08/28/2019 1:43:41 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: ChicagoConservative27
A lie from inside...
President Barack Obama helped reduce the deficit from $1.4 trillion in 2009 to $485 billion in 2014, ending at $587 billion in 2016.

When he came into office, obama inherited a Bush standoff on the budget. W was holding out for cuts. obama accepted every last cent in the first (and only budget) during his administration. Next, he rushed through a $700 billion stimulus. Why the rush.

Because the fiscal year runs from October through September. As long as obama allocated the spending before September 30, the dollars would count against W’s last budget year. So obama artificially inflated the Bush deficit by $900 billion in order to pretend to “cut” the deficit.

58 posted on 08/28/2019 1:45:19 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: cuban leaf

“We jumped off this cliff decades ago, and it’s gonna hurt when we hit the rocks below. “

My wife and I want to retire now, we are in our late 50’s. Our CFP said we can go to age 100 no problem with our current finances.

We both feel a major collapse is coming. Make 2008 look like child’s play and what we have would be eaten up in 10 years.

We are both healthy so we continue working.


60 posted on 08/28/2019 1:51:48 PM PDT by setter
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