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What If Obama Had Dropped Biden in 2012?
nymag ^ | 08/22/2019 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 08/23/2019 7:08:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

It’s not exactly a secret that the central message of Joe Biden’s presidential candidacy is that voters should choose him just like Barack Obama did. This new campaign ad makes that unsubtly clear:

What makes this effort to make his vice-presidential selection an implicit presidential endorsement particularly egregious (implicit because Obama has not backed him, and has no plans to do so unless he wins the nomination) is the evidence we have that the 44th president went out of his way not to set up some sort of succession, as the New York Times reported when Biden was chosen:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 2012; biden; clowncar; delaware; dropped; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; obama

1 posted on 08/23/2019 7:08:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Obama had dropped Biden, Obama would not be alive.


2 posted on 08/23/2019 7:10:04 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I think that Biden was dropped long ago...on his head.


3 posted on 08/23/2019 7:10:19 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Obama was so full of himself Biden was his perfect sidekick because Biden was basically the village idiot and Obama just paraded him around like a 2 year old, told him to keep his pie hole shut, and feeling that would add gravitas to an otherwise incompetent loser President.


4 posted on 08/23/2019 7:11:13 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Biden’s son would’ve let Larry Sinclair speak.


5 posted on 08/23/2019 7:12:13 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Say he did drop Biden, who would have replaced him?


6 posted on 08/23/2019 7:15:48 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How often do presidents drop a running mate from the ticket?

I’ve heard that if a president drops a VP nominee from the ticket for the reelection campaign, that it would be an admission that he chose the wrong man in the first place.

The last time I recall this happened, was in 1976, when President Ford chose Bob Dole as his running mate, rather than incumbent VP Nelson Rockefeller.


7 posted on 08/23/2019 7:16:54 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Say he did drop Biden, who would have replaced him?

Hard to think of someone as stupid as Biden and as long serving. Maybe Patrick Leahy.

8 posted on 08/23/2019 7:17:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27

0bama needs no second guy!!

HE was Ultimate Leader!!!

(in his mind...)


9 posted on 08/23/2019 7:18:30 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: 1Old Pro

Leaky would need a diaper change.


10 posted on 08/23/2019 7:20:07 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: 1Old Pro

Remember Biden brought “gravitas” & “statesman level” experience to the 2008 Rat ticket.

and they still won....twice!


11 posted on 08/23/2019 7:20:46 AM PDT by Reily
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The real question is “what if there had been a viable challenger to Hillary Clinton within the Democrat Party in 2016?”

You could ask the same about whether George W. Bush had replaced Dick Cheney in 2004. Would we have been stuck with RINO McCain? My own theory is that Bush and McCain struck a deal in 2004 whereby McCain would stop trying to sabotage Bush’s re-election bid and, in return, the GOP would clear the decks for McCain to get the nomination in 2008.


12 posted on 08/23/2019 7:24:41 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The sitting VP could not have presented any sort of threat to Hildebeast.

I am certain that’s why it did not happen.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 7:34:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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The foundamental principle underlying the Democtat Party is: "I WANT WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT IT!!!" It applies to the party leadership, as well as Democrat voters.

When Obama was President, his focus was on himself, not his party, and certainly not the country. He could have run for reelection with Hillary as the VP candidate, enhancing her chances (and the Democrat Party's chances) at occupying the White House after the 2016 election. He did not do that. By keeping 'Stoopid Joe' Biden as VP, he promoted his own legacy, at his party's expense.

The previous Democrat president provides an even more obvious example of that "ME FIRST!!!" attitude that dominates Democrat politics. When the public (belatedly) became aware of B.J. Clinton's inability to keep his pants zipped in the Oval Office, Billy Jeff could have, and should have, resigned. If he had stepped down shortly after the midpoint of his second term, it would have almost guaranteed nearly 10 years in the White House for Al Gore (and the Democrat Party). But B.J. was more concerned with his own legacy ("ME FIRST!!!" once again).

You want to shut down any Democrat who's whining about the 2000 election? Just point out that Clinton could have guaranteed 10 years of President Al Gore, simply by doing the right thing, and resigning...

14 posted on 08/23/2019 8:08:17 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Who is John Galt?

41’ should have dumped Quayle and thereby admit the mistake. Reagan should have dumped 41 and picked loser Kemp. Something tells me Rumsfield would have fit in very well somehow.


15 posted on 08/23/2019 8:26:22 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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I think BHO was cleared for a run to the presidency mistakenly. And that those who endorsed him as a plausible candidate a fully vetted candidate we’re too ashamed of their error to ever admit it and so it was allowed to continue.


16 posted on 08/23/2019 8:28:45 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Reily

and they still won....twice!
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Because the GOP put up Designated Losers who had no intention of winning.


17 posted on 08/23/2019 8:48:48 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Clutch Martin

The Kenyanesian Usurpation was fully intentional.
BOTH parties want to eliminate the natural protections of the natural born citizen requirement.
In the case of the GOP, they had Jindal, Rubio, Haley, Cruz and most importantly, George P. Bush in the wings and all of them ineligible.


18 posted on 08/23/2019 8:53:08 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Drop Biden?!? No way... Biden was a major part of the Joke on US.

We know Joe and we know the essence of Joe is good comedy and bad news completely untroubled by conscience or morality.

Vice President of the US, Joe Biden ... what a Joke on US. Ha ha ha ... Get it?

19 posted on 08/23/2019 10:07:25 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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