Posted on 08/22/2019 8:24:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
The U.S. has long had a major problem. We are not considered a dependable ally.
This first became widely known when the U.S. decided to remove our troops from the war in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia in the 1970s. Many of our allies in those nations were left high and dry, to be persecuted or slaughtered by the communists. In Cambodia, after the U.S. left, the genocidal forces of Pol Pot killed up to two million people.
More recently, in 2011, U.S. troops were prematurely recalled from Iraq, abandoning the persecuted minorities there. This allowed ISIS to establish the caliphate and slaughter and terrorize the population, especially Shia Muslims, Yazidis, and Christians. Because ISIS was an avowed enemy of the U.S., beheaded several of our citizens, and conducted terror attacks against us, the U.S. eventually had to return to stop it.
Ironically, America becomes an undependable ally often because the American people have moral values and do not want to fight or police other nations. Also, as a democracy, the U.S. public is sensitive to American casualties. So when a war goes on too long, with many casualties, we often turn against the war, regardless of its importance or which side is winning.
This need not be what happens, in Syria, today.
The U.S. has about 1,000 American troops in Syria. American troops were first introduced in 2014 to provide supplies, training, and air support to the Kurdish fighters in Syria and, later, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which included the Kurds, Syrian Sunni Arabs, Christians, and Yazidis as well.
These U.S. troops have done a fantastic job, in tandem with the SDF. In 2017, at the behest of the U.S., U.S. forces and the SDF conquered Raqqa, the capital of the ISIS caliphate.
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Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Stir the whey?
Is this the safe zone Trump talked about in the campaign?
For one thing, the U.S. did not “abandon” any “allies” in Southeast Asia. An “ally” by definition is a nation with common interests. We didn’t have anything like that in Vietnam or Cambodia. Instead, we spent tens of thousands of lives and billions of dollars taking sides in civil wars in these unstable places. We finally left when our leadership could no longer keep a straight face while lying their asses off to the American public about what the hell we were doing over there.
The same thing happened in Iraq, despite this blatant propagandist lie:
More recently, in 2011, U.S. troops were prematurely recalled from Iraq, abandoning the persecuted minorities there. This allowed ISIS to establish the caliphate and slaughter and terrorize (etc.) ...
The U.S. military did not withdraw from Iraq “prematurely.” In fact, they left exactly when we promised they would leave under the terms of the agreement signed by the governments of the U.S. and Iraq in November 2008. How does this @sshole keep a straight face when he says the U.S. is an “unreliable ally” on one hand ... then suggests on the other hand that we should have abrogated a signed agreement on the other — for the sole purpose of maintaining a perpetual military presence in another sovereign country?
It’s hard for me to read your post with a straight face: exactly how much experience do you have in warfare or global power?
Unless I’m greatly mistaken, you’re a “couch expert” who graciously enjoys the freedoms but haven’t done all that much safeguard it.
Let me bounce this off you: have you any thoughts and opinions that aren’t exactly the same as the pro-enemy Left?
Ever heard of the Straits of Malacca and where Vietnam is situated in respect to them and maybe the importance to that part of the world has to our and our allies’ safety and security?
Or is everything you know just as you heard it on TV?
If the Strait of Malacca is the basis of your interest in Vietnam, perhaps you’re getting Vietnam mixed up with Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand. Vietnam borders the South China Sea and the Gulf of Thailand, not the Strait of Malacca.
Never mentioned bordering on the Straits - but the Communist Bloc was focused on controlling them - and the excellent ports in Vietnam were well-suited and proximate for the growing Soviet blue water fleet.
We weren’t “intervening in a civil war” per the Left’s fiction, we were protecting an ally from being overwhelmed by a massive Soviet/Chinese/ Warsaw Pact infusion of investment in weapons, munitions, and advisors and an invasion by NVA regulars into South Vietnam.
Any idea what the world would have looked like if we hadn’t weighed in?
Any idea how much trust our allies would have had in us if we just let Vietnam fall?
I spent about 17 months evaluating things with an M14 with the best young men ever produced by our country on both flanks.
It’s time we stopped being an unreliable ally.
By not sticking our fists in every tarbaby around the world.
We can’t afford the blood or treasure required to police the world and everywhere we try we usually leave it worse off than when we went there.
Bring the troops home and put them on the borders.
THe US foreign policy is run by NRA fudds like CHeney. They think the world is a sort of safari where you hunt with ammo and means limited by the Geneva convention and other same types of global cop authorities acting as some kind of game warden in check.
It is absolute foolish and nonsense policy. It also is very expensive. When fighting a war when one has no money, one chooses the battles very carefully and look to use minimum cost with guerrilla protracted tactics.
Not so here, we think we have enough FU money to just go bable about.
WHat is most egregious is when you tell these globalist cops that their postures of arms treaties and what not with other nations amount to a foolish registration of our weapons and telegraphing ahead our moves, we make ourselves very vulnerable to an eventual surprise attack from big actors like RUssia and China.
We are dealing with fudds that have a globalist cop respecting mentality over the world when we should have a real military posture, with an account of weapons we share with no one in order to invite no attacks, and a relationship with other nations of don’t eff with us , we will not eff’ with you, but if you eff’ with us, there is no Geneva convention, no UN, no DNR , no cop, we go full blast and knock you out the eff’ing map, NO LIMITS in self defense, and WE DISPOSE what we do with your country with no withdrawal deals what not.
0bama had our troops fight ALONGSIDE Al Qaeda/Al Nusra in Libya
The “kinder, gentler” Al Qaeda
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