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The Problem Isn’t The Plastic, It’s The People
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2019 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 08/22/2019 5:13:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

I don’t know who said it, but whoever came up with the idea that “whatever liberals don’t want to ban, they want to make mandatory,” is absolutely accurate. You name it, they’ve got a plan to force everyone to do it or to rid the world of it. Nothing is too small to escape their crosshairs, not even straws.

Straws are a favorite target, the banning of which is all the rage in Democrat-controlled cities across the country. They pat themselves on the back so hard over this Jihad against straws that you’d think they were giving themselves the Heimlich maneuver.

Now they’re coming for water bottles. Honestly, it’s kind of surprising it took this long.

San Francisco International Airport has banned plastic water bottles from being sold inside the terminal because, they say, it will help save the planet. One traveler, a woman named Debbie Dubois, told a reporter, “I actually think it’s a really positive move. I’m really proud of the city of San Francisco and California for being aware and taking some action to save our planet.”

Yay, planet saved! Not exactly.

You can still buy any other non-alcoholic beverage in plastic bottles, and if you’ve ever bought a bottle of Coke you’ve likely noticed plastic “pop” or “soda” bottles (depending upon where in the country you are – btw: pop is correct) are much thicker than plastic water bottles. Some water bottles are so thin and flimsy they’re like trying to drink out of a Ziploc bag. Fox reported that vice president of the International Bottled Water Association said, “If consumers can’t get a bottled water product in their preferred plastic container, they are likely to purchase a less healthy beverage in a much heavier plastic bottle, which will actually increase the amount of waste generated as SFO.”

While the stated goal of the ban is to bring the airport closer to their goal of producing zero landfill waste by 2021, this “feel good” move will end up producing more waste. At least, that is, until they move to bad the next round of plastic.

Why the Jihad against plastic? Because waterways around the world, particularly the oceans, are becoming littered with the stuff. It’s the same “logic” behind the $.05 per plastic bag tax liberals imposed nearly everywhere they could.

But the problem isn’t the plastic, it’s the people who toss their trash out the windows of their cars or on the ground wherever they happen to be. Much like everything else, because of the acts of a few, they want to infringe upon or tax everyone else rather than cracking down and fining people who litter.

By the way, the overwhelming majority of the plastic in the ocean comes from Asia, but taxing and banning things in Asia isn’t an option. American pockets are here, and Democrats love to get their hands in those, especially when it can be wrapped in the idea of saving the planet.

There is a better way, if liberals really do want to address the problem.

I grew up in Michigan, a state where you won’t find many stray bottles or cans laying around parks or anywhere else. Why? Are Michiganders super-tidy? Not really. It’s because every can and bottle is worth a dime.

Michigan has a $.10 deposit on every bottle and can sold. So a pop that costs $.99 actually costs $1.09. When you bring the bottle back to a store that sells them, you get a dime. A case of beer cans is worth $2.40. As a kid, I funded by baseball card habit by collecting empties from parks and softball fields around the city. It was great for kids too young to work - gave us a way to get some money.

This would work for water bottles in California, plastic bags, or even straws everywhere. If those things suddenly had value, artificial as it is, you’d create an army of kids and homeless people snatching up every stray they could find. They wouldn’t end up in the water, they’d be recycled the second they hit the ground. You want to get rid of plastic bags, make them worth a nickel or dime. Once you pay for it, because they’re so thin, they become worthless the second you get your groceries out of them. If they didn’t rip before that. Tossing them in the trash or on the ground becomes an option when something has zero value. So why not a deposit instead?

The problem is, while a deposit would clean the streets and waterways, these local governments wouldn’t be able to wet their beaks. And no liberal government is interested in a solution to anything if they don’t get a piece of the action.

So, politicians and government officials continue to ban and tax without making an impact on what they say their ultimate goal is. Makes you wonder if control, and not keeping plastic bottles, bags, and straws from becoming litter, isn’t really their goal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: deposit; drinks; environment; landfills; litter; plastic; plasticstraws; recycling; straws; trash; waste
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1 posted on 08/22/2019 5:13:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Burn the plastic for electric power. Good scrubbers little or no pollution. Let’s get real.


2 posted on 08/22/2019 5:19:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

So, so true.

By the way, “Ban and Tax” is the perfect term to summarize the Democrat party today. Everything they do fits under those two categories.


3 posted on 08/22/2019 5:19:57 AM PDT by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates.)
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To: Kaslin

Just like the gun control debate....do not go after the actual perpetrators...go after the masses and make life more difficult for them.


4 posted on 08/22/2019 5:23:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Kaslin
I saw a report that the straw controversy started with a straw fragment being discovered in one nostril of a captured wild sea turtle.

That discovery was extrapolated to the extermination of all straws.

We don't have a straw problem, we have an envirowacko progressive problem . We need to be rid of people, not straws

5 posted on 08/22/2019 5:30:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Kaslin
The Plastic Straw Ban in a perfect example how Liberals can't seem to differentiate between big and small problems, between real and imaginary problems.
If it can be used for political gain, turn the volume up to 11 and panic.

6 posted on 08/22/2019 5:31:47 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

Have you noticed that the most litter is in Democrat controlled areas?


7 posted on 08/22/2019 5:32:19 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Kaslin

Plastic is made from OIL.

That is really their target. “BIG OIL”.


8 posted on 08/22/2019 5:42:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Fido969
Have you noticed that the most litter is in Democrat controlled areas?

I've seen actual cesspools with less trash floating in them than Baltimore Harbor.


9 posted on 08/22/2019 5:43:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Kaslin
Michigan has a $.10 deposit on every bottle and can sold.

I think that went into effect sometime during the 1970's. Prior to that the roads and highways were littered with tin cans that were casually tossed out the car windows......

Those cans have now been replaced with plastic water bottles. You should see the softball diamonds we play on in the mornings after games the night before. The dugouts are strewn with the plastic bottles just thrown on the ground or left on the benches while a garbage can is only 15 ft. away.........

Put a deposit on them too and somebody will pick them up.......

10 posted on 08/22/2019 5:49:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Kaslin
By the way, the overwhelming majority of the plastic in the ocean comes from Asia, but taxing and banning things in Asia isn’t an option.

More specifically, third world Barry Sotero Asians and Africans using first world products then dumping them overboard without a thought.

So, yeah- ban plastic straws, because...control.

11 posted on 08/22/2019 5:53:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

There are two types of people. People who pick up trash as they walk to dispose, and people who throw the trash out of cars or as they walk.


12 posted on 08/22/2019 5:57:44 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: bert
We don't have a straw problem, we have an envirowacko progressive problem . We need to be rid of people liberals, not straws.


13 posted on 08/22/2019 6:00:24 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Actually most polyolefins like polyethylene come from natural gas of which we have so much we burn it at the well head. Haven’t figured out how plastic bottles or straws are killing the planet. If dumped they just sit there and don’t do much.


14 posted on 08/22/2019 6:01:01 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: Envisioning

Thanks for the correction

The graphic is stunning


15 posted on 08/22/2019 6:02:12 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert
As usual, the hypocrisy is lost on them.....
16 posted on 08/22/2019 6:09:32 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If you’ve been to Israel, you’ll see that the Jewish areas are clean and the muzzie areas are full of trash everywhere. Muslims are pigs.


17 posted on 08/22/2019 6:09:38 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Kaslin
Time to bring back another fake Indian


18 posted on 08/22/2019 6:40:13 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Kaslin

My husband and I went out to dinner for the first time in ages this week. We chose a new little pizza/sandwich place with healthy food and mix-your-own juice combinations. My drink was wonderful. Then I opened the straw and realized it was one of those thick paper straws that makes it so that all I could taste was the straw. GAG! I chose not to use a straw at all. I’ll bet that straw had some kind of noxious chemical in it. Sure tasted like it!


19 posted on 08/22/2019 6:41:00 AM PDT by Bookwoman (And I am unanimous in that.)
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To: rjsimmon

It’s like term limits. Its the voter.


20 posted on 08/22/2019 6:42:18 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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