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The Gun-Control 'Compromise' the Left will Never Accept
Townhall ^ | 08/20/2019 | Ben Langlotz

Posted on 08/20/2019 7:23:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/20/2019 7:23:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Whoever wrote this must have went to Glenn Beck school of journalism. He dangles the full compromise until you’re tired of reading and quit. I did. Maybe after I finish my coffee I’ll come back and finish the article and see what the gotcha is for liberals.


2 posted on 08/20/2019 7:26:45 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


3 posted on 08/20/2019 7:26:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not interested in comprising with Nazis.

At all.


4 posted on 08/20/2019 7:27:09 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just putting this out there: If *MY* LOCAL sheriff announced a “well-regulated militia” akin to what Kurt Schlichter wrote about in his column, I would likely sign up. State-level? Maybe? Federal-level? um, no thanks.

How could the LEFT argue against it?

Here’s his column: https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2019/07/11/lets-call-the-liberals-second-amendment-militia-bluff-n2549829


5 posted on 08/20/2019 7:28:06 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SeekAndFind

An inch at a time. Always an inch at a time.
Enough.

Tens of thousands of existing laws do nothing to curb the evil while holding the innocent accountable.

In the upcoming unpleasantness and contest for your freedom either learn to use a rifle or otherwise ride the bus.


6 posted on 08/20/2019 7:30:18 AM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afghanistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So here’s the real compromise: even firearms dealers will no longer have to keep a record (known as Form 4473) of who bought what – those eventually end up in government hands for databasing. The dealer verifies his customer by ID, (just like a liquor retailer who cards a customer) but gun purchases are private.


Huh? That makes no sense.

No traceable weapons at all?

So, if Bill goes into Bubbuh’s fine guns, buys a gun, and knocks over a liquor store with said gun, how do we know who sold him the gun? How do we know they asked for ID or anything?

This is confusing and seems utterly pointless.


7 posted on 08/20/2019 7:30:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a car accident who or what is blamed? The car or the driver?


8 posted on 08/20/2019 7:31:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: for-q-clinton

I noticed that too. And when you DO get to the compromise, it’s stupid.


9 posted on 08/20/2019 7:31:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: SeekAndFind

The original author can kindly eff off.


10 posted on 08/20/2019 7:32:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is laughable.

“So here’s the real compromise: even firearms dealers will no longer have to keep a record “

Yep, until congress reconvenes.


11 posted on 08/20/2019 7:32:52 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: for-q-clinton

Lol! I quit on it too!


12 posted on 08/20/2019 7:33:03 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Constitution has already been compromised into irrelevance.

No more.


13 posted on 08/20/2019 7:34:01 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind
It has never been about guns.
It has always been about control.
14 posted on 08/20/2019 7:34:17 AM PDT by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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Well, let’s negotiate in good faith. Each must give up something to the other.

I have the guns, YOU want them.
What will YOU give up to me to get them.
YOU have NOTHING to negotiate with but bluff and bluster.

End of negotiations.


15 posted on 08/20/2019 7:34:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SeekAndFind

I have posted this before, but the same recommendations could be applied to FINDING the potential mass killers BEFORE they have become a very difficult sociopath. This would not apply immediately, but looking at the long term, many serious confrontations could be either blunted or avoided entirely.

Acquaint ALL children of school age with the reality of firearms. Starting in the primary grades, instructions on how to AVOID being accidentally shot by an unsecured handgun they may happen upon. Also, allow the RETURN of fingerbang and toy guns, cap pistols and air rifles to the access of those in the early years of school, so guns do not retain an air of mystery that may be totally fascinating to the young mind. This also gives insight to the kinds of interactions that point to the predispositions of the youth as individuals. With the acceptance of these devices, it is also necessary to make sure the children have also been fully informed of the responsibilities of safe use and proper care of these devices, and rules of conduct while handling them, even in play. The idea here is to identify at a much earlier age those children who may either be totally afraid of the very idea of hand weapons, or so brazen that they far too quickly adopt the idea of using this kind of device in bullying tactics, which they would quickly reveal. The eternally timid should be given further instruction in means of avoidance, evasion, or how to escape once in a highly vulnerable situation. Also tattoo their Social Security number and name on some part of their anatomy, so the remains may be quickly identified, should they be so unfortunate. For the brazen bullies that WILL cause trouble later in life, counseling and/or psychiatric intervention at this stage may be a way to forecast or forestall future need for intervention, when the situation is much more serious.

For the remainder of the more normally-orientated children in middle school, familiarity with all types of side arms is much encouraged, with even some target practice with light-caliber sidearms, and by the time they are in high school, competitive range firing with specified skill levels as part of the school curriculum.

Guns become totally demystified, being a thing in which youth is in full contact with, and all the rules of care, feeding, grooming and proper use and storage have been instilled in the responsible youth, while identifying at a much earlier age those of whom should NEVER come into contact with weaponry of any kind.

Like I said, long-term, to first overcome the prejudices, and to make sure the NEXT generation is adequately prepared to be available for military training and careers in law enforcement, as well as common home defense. And to weed out the bad actors long before they may develop into a threat.

Of course, there would be some who would want to blow this proposal up into something sinister immediately, and I can only say, superstition is a dreadful taskmaster.


16 posted on 08/20/2019 7:35:08 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If a background check is to see if a gun buyer is a prohibited person at the time of purchase, why do they need the gun data? It is the person, not the gun that is being checked.


17 posted on 08/20/2019 7:35:21 AM PDT by umgud
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To: subterfuge

I finished my coffee and skimmed until I found it. Here it is...

“Get rid of all gun buyer databases”


18 posted on 08/20/2019 7:35:22 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

5000 plus state laws, 460 pages of ATF laws and numerous Federal laws——it’s time they compromise in rolling that back to one main law——murder is illegal and we have zero gun laws, period!

Or we simply “compromise” and create “common sense” abortion laws because too many kids are dying.


19 posted on 08/20/2019 7:38:44 AM PDT by mikelets456
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No traceable weapons at all? So, if Bill goes into Bubbuh’s fine guns, buys a gun, and knocks over a liquor store with said gun, how do we know who sold him the gun? How do we know they asked for ID or anything? This is confusing and seems utterly pointless.

Tracing is utterly pointless.

It is virtually never used to solve crimes.

A few guns may get returned to people they were stolen from.

That is the only thing it accomplishes that is legitimate.

The purpose of tracing is to be a precursor to registration.

The author is suggesting a point of sale check to determine if a gun may be legally sold. That is what we have now, except it does not work well and collects the pointless information for a supposedly non-existent registration system.

20 posted on 08/20/2019 7:42:24 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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