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New goal for New York Times: 'Reframe' American history, and target Trump, too
Washington Examiner ^ | 8-17-19 | Byron York

Posted on 08/19/2019 9:34:29 AM PDT by DeweyCA

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To: DeweyCA
the paper's executive editor, Dean Baquet, discussed his "vision" of making race the central theme of Times coverage for the remaining two years of President Trump's term in office.

They need to first learn to write. This sentence more properly should be written as such...

for the remaining two years of President Trump's FIRST term in office.

21 posted on 08/19/2019 10:13:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: BEJ

Can you say,”Potemkin Village”?


22 posted on 08/19/2019 10:17:28 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: elpadre
> Is there any Conservative with money to buy out the NYT or WP and fire these anti-American bums?

No, since this is not a money issue, its a power issue.
By definition a Conservative does not have a lust for power like the typical modern CEO or board member does.

Furthermore, our system of government has lit a fire the world over, where the "common man" realizes the "elites" who have ruled over them for millennia are by and large morally and intellectualy INFERIOR.

Look at Brexit and Hong Kong for recent examples of this.

23 posted on 08/19/2019 10:19:13 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING!)
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To: DeweyCA

Methinks the NYT is getting a little to big fir their britches. #1 rule for success in business: Stick to your knitting.

Mr. Baquet is in for a let down.


24 posted on 08/19/2019 10:20:38 AM PDT by upchuck (If democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90% ~ h/t Mr K.)
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To: DeweyCA
Well, Uncle Walter tried to "reframe" Stalin. I guess he'd be proud of an effort like this.
25 posted on 08/19/2019 10:21:51 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: DeweyCA

During WWII, we would’ve never allowed Nazis to set up a ministry of propaganda in America.

Why are we allowing the execrable NYT to fill that role in 2019? We need an American-style Nuremberg trial to begin for crimes against the Constitution and American people.


26 posted on 08/19/2019 10:25:48 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Don Corleone

You’re absolutely right.


27 posted on 08/19/2019 10:26:14 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: litehaus

As opposed to the Democrats:
1. Slavery
2. Secession
3. Segregation
4. Socialism


28 posted on 08/19/2019 10:26:35 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: DeweyCA

Slaves in America, who were they. They were all inferior afticans. They wete completely and absolutely un equal to their African enslavers. They lacked the intellectual and physical ability to save themselves.

Today, having schieved limited political power in their segregated city enclaves they whine about the inequality that got them out of Africa into better lives in America

Historical analysis


29 posted on 08/19/2019 10:31:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: elpadre
"Is there any Conservative with money to buy out the NYT or WP and fire these anti-American bums?"

A few years ago, the NYT was bought by a Mexican (Mexico based) billionaire, so I doubt it is for sale.

30 posted on 08/19/2019 10:33:18 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: DeweyCA
Perhaps the following information, available from the Library of Congress web site referenced in the post, may provide context for any current discussion related to the topic of this thread.

Ohio State Senator and A.M.E. Bishop Benjamin W. Arnett, outstanding scholar, Legislator, and Minister, who lived through the period of the Civil War and delivered a most outstanding Centennial Sermon, at St. Paul Church in Norwalk, Ohio, by invitation, honoring the 100th Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, in which he traced the history of nations and that of America, from it's inception and up to the Year of the Centennial of its Declaration.
 photo Benjamin W. Arnett2 image.jpg

In that Sermon, Dr. Arnett issued a grave warning of what might happen to America if a group, including academics who then self-described as "Liberals," had its way. Excerpts follow:

"The Danger to our Country.

"Now that our national glory and grandeur is principally derived from the position the fathers took on the great questions of right and wrong, and the career of this nation has been unparalleled in the history of the past, now there are those who are demanding the tearing down the strength of our national fabric. They may not intend to tear it down, but just as sure as they have their way, just that sure will they undermine our superstructure and cause the greatest calamity of the age. What are the demands of this party of men? Just look at it and examine it for yourselves, and see if you are willing that they shall have their way; or will you still assist in keeping the ship of state in the hands of the same crew and run her by the old gospel chart! But ye men who think there is no danger listen to the demands of the Liberals as they choose to call themselves:

"'Organize! Liberals of America! The hour for action has arrived. The cause of freedom calls upon us to combine our strength, our zeal, our efforts. These are The Demands of Liberalism:

"'1. We demand that churches and other ecclesiastical property shall no longer be exempt from just taxation.

"'2. We demand that the employment of chaplains in Congress, in State Legislatures, in the navy and militia, and in prisons, asylums, and all other institutions supported by public money, shall be discontinued.

"'3. We demand that all public appropriations for sectarian educational and charitable institutions shall cease.

"'4. We demand that all religious services now sustained by the government shall be abolished; and especially that the use of the Bible in the public schools, whether ostensibly as a text-book or avowedly as a book of religious worship, shall be prohibited.

"'5. We demand that the appointment, by the President of the United States or by the Governors of the various States, of all religious festivals and fasts shall wholly cease.

"'6. We demand that the judicial oath in the courts and in all other departments of the government shall be abolished, and that simple affirmation under the pains and penalties of perjury shall be established in its stead.

"'7. We demand that all laws directly or indirectly enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath shall be repealed.

"'8. We demand that all laws looking to the enforcement of “Christian” morality shall be abrogated, and that all laws shall be conformed to the requirements of natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty.

"'9. We demand that not only in the Constitution of the United States and of the several States, but also in the practical administration of the same, no privilege or advantage shall be conceded to Christianity or any other special religion; that our entire political system shall be founded and administered on a purely secular basis; and that whatever changes shall prove necessary to this end shall be consistently, unflinchingly, and promptly made.'

"'Let us boldly and with high purpose meet the duty of the hour.'

In another section of the lengthy discourse, Bishop Arnett addressed the topic of "The Greatness of America," as follows:
"Let us see what it is that makes us so great; wherein lies our strength. What has made us one of the greatest powers of the earth, politically and intellectually? Have we come to the conclusion that it is Righteousness that exalteth a nation? We have met to-day at the request of the President of the United States, Ulysses S. Grant, and also the Governor of our beloved State, Rutherford B. Hayes. For what? Why call us from our homes? Why come to the house of God? Why not go to the hall of mirth and to the places of amusement to-day? No that is not what they want us to do. We are commanded to go to our 'several places of worship, and there offer up thanks to Kind Providence which has brought our nation through the scenes of another year, and blessed the land with peace, plenty and prosperity.' Then as Americans we have reason to rejoice and congratulate ourselves on the greatness of our beloved country; at this the close of the first hundred years of experimental government of the people, by the people, and for the people. To be a citizen of this vast country is something, and to share in its privileges and duties is more than something." - Dr. Benjamin W. Arnett, 1876 "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon" -

CENTENNIAL Thanksgiving Sermon, DELIVERED BY REV. B. W. ARNETT, B. D., AT ST. PAUL A. M. E. CHURCH, URBANA, OHIO 1876 - available in the "Library of Congress - Historical Collections" - "African-American Pamphlets from the Daniel A. P. Murray Collection," 1820-1920; American Memory, Washington, DC.

This historical treasure is one which should be prominent in our national discussions, especially now, when our philosophical foundations are being challenged, and when the views of a learned man like Dr. Arnett might shed light on centuries-old ideas about America's history. His theme: Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to any People."

"Withdraw from Christendom the Bible, the Church with its sacraments and ministry, and Christian morality and hopes, and aspirations for time and eternity; repeal all the laws that are founded in the Christian Scriptures; remove the Christian humanities in the form of hospitals and asylums, and reformatories and institutions of mercy utterly unknown to unchristian countries; destroy the literature, the culture, the institutions of learning, the art, the refinement, the place of woman in her home and in society, which owe their origin and power to Christianity; blot out all faith in Divine Providence, love, and righteousness; turn back every believer in Christ to his former state; remove all thought or hope of the forgiveness of sins by a just but gracious God; erase the name of Christ from every register it sanctifies—in a word annihilate all the legitimate and logical effects of Christianity in Christendom—just accomplish in fact what multitudes of gifted and learned minds are wishing and trying to accomplish by their science, philosophy, and criticism, and what multitudes of the common people desire and seek, and not only would all progress toward and unto perfection cease, but not one of the shining lights of infidelity would shine much longer. Yes, the bitterest enemies of this holy and blessed religion, owe their ability to be enemies to its sacred revelations - to the inspiration and sublimity of that faith which reflects its glories on their hostile natures. They live in the strength of that which they would destroy. They are raised to their seats of opportunity and power by the grace of Him they would crucify afresh; and is it to be thought that they are stronger than that which gives them strength? Can it be supposed that a religion which civilizes and subdues, and elevates and blesses will succumb to the enmities it may arouse and quicken in its onward march? Are we to tremble for the ark of God when God is its upholder, and protector, and preserver?” - Dr. Benjaming W. Arnett, St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Urbana, Ohio, Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon, November 1876
Dr. Arnett, an A.M.E. Minister and Ohio State Legislator, was invited to publish this remarkable sermon commemorating the Centennial of the Declaration of Independence by the following method:

To:

Rev. B. W. ARNETT, B. D.

Dear Pastor:

Will you please prepare your “Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon” for publication: together with whatever matter pertaining to the colored people of this city, you deem worth preserving.

We make this request of you, believing that the publication of such matter, will be of benefit to the present and succeeding generations.

Yours Respectfully,

J GAITER
J. DEMPCY
C. L, GANT
Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Urbana, O.

December 7th, 1876

J GAITER, J. DEMPCY, C. L, GANT

Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES


31 posted on 08/19/2019 10:37:39 AM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: FiddlePig

Will Metro police stand down the day after Election 2020 as they did for the violence after the last election?


32 posted on 08/19/2019 10:50:40 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: DeweyCA
“It will be a tiny step to get Democrats to agree to take down memorials to slave owners Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Jackson, and Americus Vespucci.”

So help me, I had not seen this Fox News story (below) when I posted the comment (above).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/williamson-vows-to-withdraw-military-honors-remove-andrew-jackson-oval-office-portrait-as-part-of-atonement-for-native-american-treatment

33 posted on 08/19/2019 10:59:24 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: SecondAmendment

don’t any of them have a lust for honesty???


34 posted on 08/19/2019 11:16:37 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Truth29

After WWII when communism was outlawed in the US many well-heeled communists, mostly from Long Island and New England, permanently relocated to Mexico City and formed a community.

Could he be part of that commie colony??


35 posted on 08/19/2019 11:20:43 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre
After WWII when communism was outlawed in the US many well-heeled communists, mostly from Long Island and New England, permanently relocated to Mexico City and formed a community.

That's where Trotsky met the Ice Axe (only good thing Joe Stalin ever did)

36 posted on 08/19/2019 11:22:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Its hard to believe but Trotsky was more extreme then Stalin.


37 posted on 08/19/2019 11:25:12 AM PDT by Reily
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To: DeweyCA
everything in American history is explained by slavery and race. creation/production of values by value creators/producers
38 posted on 08/19/2019 11:38:47 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: DeweyCA

Make America Bad Again.


39 posted on 08/19/2019 11:48:23 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: DeweyCA

The four “R’s” of education...

Russia
Racism
Recession
Reframing

Reality did not make the Final Four


40 posted on 08/19/2019 11:54:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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