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Shooting Down California's Ammo Law
Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2019 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 08/17/2019 6:07:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Dove season opens in California and across the U.S. on Sept. 1.

For as long as I can remember, all I had to do when dove season rolled around each year was oil my 1970s-vintage shotgun, buy a case or two of shells at the nearby Big Five sports store and drive toward the Arizona border with my hunting buddies for a few happy days of shooting.

But thanks to a proposition approved by 63 percent of Californians in 2016 and the leftist lawmakers in Sacramento who've been wrecking the state for 40 years, dove season this year will be much more complicated.

A new state law aimed at reducing gun violence took effect on July 1 that requires anyone who buys ammo for any kind of gun to first pass a state background check.

If you're one of California's 4.5 million gun owners who has bought a gun recently, it's no big deal.

You are already in the state's database as a registered gun owner, so you don't need to clear another background check.

But if you're someone like me who hasn't purchased a gun since the 1970s, when you could buy a deer rifle or shotgun at Sears as easily as buying a lawn mower, you're in for some serious bureaucratic torture.

Before I can buy the shotgun shells I'll need this year, I have to go to a state-licensed vendor (a sporting goods store), give them all my information, show them my California driver's ID and then pass a background check that takes anywhere from 3 to 30 days to clear

After I pass my $19 background check I have 30 days to buy the shotgun shells I'll need. If after 30 days I need to buy more shells, I'll have to pay another $19 for another background check.

The DMV-like process of buying ammo in California is bad enough, but if I'm not careful about how or where I get my shotgun shells, I could become a criminal.

Let's say I'm out in the field next month and I run out of shells after a day or two of shooting.

According to the new law, the only place I'd be allowed to buy more shells is at the same sports store where I passed my background check, which would be a hundred miles away.

What if I asked one of my hunting buddies to give me a box of his shells?

Good idea, but if he gives them to me he'll break the new ammo law because he didn't do a background check on me first.

A person from a less liberal state like Pennsylvania might ask, "Why don't you just go out of state to Arizona and buy your shells there?"

It's a perfectly sensible idea, except that if you are caught bringing more than 90 rounds of ammo into California you can go to jail.

And don't think you are free to order your ammunition online. Manufacturers aren't allowed to ship directly to individuals in the state, just to licensed ammunition vendors like Big Five.

The end result of all this anti-ammo-madness is that somehow on Sept. 1 all of us will be breaking the law at some point by sharing shotgun shells.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; california; guns
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1 posted on 08/17/2019 6:07:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think the 2nd background check is $1. If the implementation is as efficient as the CA DMV, it won’t matter;
it’ll be months.


2 posted on 08/17/2019 6:20:05 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Kaslin
The end result of all this anti-ammo-madness is that somehow on Sept. 1 all of us will be breaking the law...

The State of California is America's version of 'Dutch tulip mania' - the place will just get crazier and crazier, until the market for 'California-style Socialism' collapses. If the rest of the country is lucky, that will happen AFTER the state secedes from the union...

3 posted on 08/17/2019 6:21:22 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Kaslin

The Mexican cartels are probably already smuggling ammo to CA.


4 posted on 08/17/2019 6:21:33 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Kaslin

Move East.


5 posted on 08/17/2019 6:22:00 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Kaslin

I suspect some enterprising guy will open an ammo shop right off I-15 right over the Nevada border.
Folks either coming to or leaving from Vegas will fill up their trunks.


6 posted on 08/17/2019 6:24:08 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: Kaslin

Reloading is the way to go


7 posted on 08/17/2019 6:29:44 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Joe Boucher

How will it effect Crossroads of the West and their shows? I buy my ammo were.


8 posted on 08/17/2019 6:30:55 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: BigpapaBo

The check on reloading materials as well.


9 posted on 08/17/2019 6:34:09 AM PDT by rey
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To: Joe Boucher

Did you read the part about it being illegal to bring in more than 90 rounds?

There would be somebody at the place recording all California plates, and CA state troopers would pull you over as soon as you crossed the border.


10 posted on 08/17/2019 6:36:41 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: vetvetdoug

“Move East”.
But not to N.J. Although if I thiMk harder about it we could use a few more conservatives here.


11 posted on 08/17/2019 6:37:07 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: sasquatch

On top of that his 70’s shotgun won’t handle steel shot, which is mandated in California also. He’ll have to buy a new one and wait 10 days before picking it up!

I’m sure both of these will be followed by the gangs.


12 posted on 08/17/2019 6:44:17 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: Kaslin

Lived in California for 20 years. Just returned from a visit to that beautiful state and said to my husband ‘I WISH the Republicans could take this state over so we could live here again’. The beauty of that state is overwhelming. More’s the pity that the Left has DESTROYED it.


13 posted on 08/17/2019 6:46:32 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..)
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To: rey

Brass & bullets are OK. Don’t know about propellant.


14 posted on 08/17/2019 6:47:35 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: originalbuckeye
The irony of the Eagles Last Resort is double considering that Henley is a big lib.
15 posted on 08/17/2019 6:50:56 AM PDT by canalabamian
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To: Kaslin

Is there something wrong with the pic of those shotgun shells? They look like they are about 1 1/2 inches long?


16 posted on 08/17/2019 7:08:17 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: Kaslin

This was the icing on the progressive sh!t cake that caused us to decide to get the hell out of blue HELL.

In two weeks we are moving to St. George, Utah. We’ve bought a house there and are selling out our considerable real estate holdings in Commiefornia.

Sacramento just passed rent control along with a per unit fee to administer their rent control, AND a prohibition against evictions, as well; another layer of crap layered on top of that icing that cemented our resolve to shut down and decamp.


17 posted on 08/17/2019 7:15:29 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Kaslin; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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18 posted on 08/17/2019 7:31:22 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

You must be unaware of mini-shells. There are several varieties of short 12 gauge shotgun shells.

Aguila being the most well known brand.


19 posted on 08/17/2019 7:33:30 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: BigpapaBo

Reloading and get an 03FFL and COE. Although the 03FFL/COE does not except one from the background check requirement for purchases from in-state ammo dealers, it does let you still buy from out of state (and internet) dealers and either physically bring ammo back or have it shipped to you without a background check. The COE also exempts you from the $19 fee if you haven’t purchased a gun recently and aren’t in the system. The CA DOJ also just passed emergency regulations requiring a Real ID to buy a gun or ammo in California. Although the law didn’t require this, the Dems didn’t think to make the drivers licenses they are giving to illegals look different so now they need the Real ID to tell us apart. So now people are scrambling to get the Real ID.


20 posted on 08/17/2019 7:44:47 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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