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Cuccinelli says Trump didn't send wrong message releasing illegal immigrant employer
Washington Examiner ^ | Aug. 12, 2019

Posted on 08/12/2019 9:18:15 AM PDT by deplorableindc

Senior Trump administration official Ken Cuccinelli said Monday he doesn't think President Trump sent the wrong message by giving his first prison commutation to a man who was one of the nation's largest employers of illegal immigrants.

The acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a hardliner on immigration policy, said the Trump administration's message is one of toughness, not leniency, after raids this month of seven food processing plants in Mississippi resulted in 680 arrests.

"I don't think so," Cuccinelli said, regarding whether the 2017 release of Sholom Rubashkin sent the wrong message. The former Iowa meatpacking executive was seven years into a 27-year sentence. "The president does those one person at a time."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: Mississippi; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; immigration; iowa; kencuccinelli; lurkinanloomin; michaelcorleone; mississippi; readpostnumber2; sholomrubashkin; trumpillegals
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yup should have let the bastard rot.


21 posted on 08/12/2019 9:57:46 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: jjotto

I have to say liberals DO have a valid argument on this point. Many ask why isn’t Trump going after the employers? I think that is a good question.


22 posted on 08/12/2019 9:59:27 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

see jjotto’s comment:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3771137/posts?page=19#19


23 posted on 08/12/2019 10:00:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: deplorableindc

It’s okay as long as Hillary still walks free as a bird.


24 posted on 08/12/2019 10:01:29 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

https://fortune.com/2017/12/21/trump-commute-sentence-sholom-rubashkin/

It appears the prison sentence was excessive. And I wouldn’t put it past team Obama going after him because he is Jewish.


25 posted on 08/12/2019 10:01:46 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BOBWADE

He wasn’t even tried for the immigration violations.


26 posted on 08/12/2019 10:05:54 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Moonman62

BRW, I apologize for harsh/sarcastic tone of my last post. It’s too easy to get mean in social media, and In trying to resist the impulse but don’t always succeed


27 posted on 08/12/2019 10:15:44 AM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

We can both play that game, but why bother.


28 posted on 08/12/2019 10:16:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: deplorableindc

Mooch is establishment. We knew that.


29 posted on 08/12/2019 10:17:41 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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To: deplorableindc

Yeah it sent a message that anyone that has been paying attention got. That all elitists are above the law no matter who the president is


30 posted on 08/12/2019 10:31:59 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: jjotto
Some underlings took the rap for illegals.

Of course. The same will play out with the Epstein suicide. The higher ups will get their hands spanked but some low level guard will get the book thrown at them

31 posted on 08/12/2019 10:33:35 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: BOBWADE

“It appears the prison sentence was excessive.”

The guy did lots of bad stuff.

Simply because he was a barracuda (crooked head of a medium size company)instead of a great white shark (crooked head of a really big company), doesn’t merit a sentence reduction.

Eight years in federal prison for unlawfully acquiring millions of dollars is not enough.

It took me four years to get through college. If I could have gotten millions for another four years at college, I would have.

There are people making $10/hour that truly hate their jobs. They could work their entire lives in misery and not get even $1 million.

Trump let off the scumbag off too easily.


32 posted on 08/12/2019 10:35:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Sam Gamgee

He’s not allowed to. Because eVerify is not the law of the land and as others have pointed out many illegals have convincing looking documentation, employers can (honestly or disingenously) say that they “didn’t know” and therefore will be let off.

I have seen self-admitted illegal co-workers (so not speculating) with documentation that looked more legitimate than mine - and I’m a natural born US citizen.


33 posted on 08/12/2019 10:38:56 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Punishment for theft at this level should be severe but there are murderers serving less time.
We may not know everything there is to know about this case but I do trust the President to make good informed decisions. That being said, it does have the outward appearances of a slap on the wrist.


34 posted on 08/12/2019 10:51:59 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Leaning Right

Since Trump became president I’ve learned much about our courts. The FBI is corrupt and they will get you if they want you. I don’t know the details but I’m sure there will be more info out there.

I already knew a lot by serving on a Federal grand jury during the Clinton era. They have no problem making up non-related charges to get people on crimes they think they’ve done but have no proof.


35 posted on 08/12/2019 11:02:59 AM PDT by tiki
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To: deplorableindc

Rubashkin should try importing illegals in Israel, where he SHOULD be deported to.


36 posted on 08/12/2019 2:28:10 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Spktyr
Because eVerify is not the law of the land and as others have pointed out many illegals have convincing looking documentation, employers can (honestly or disingenously) say that they “didn’t know” and therefore will be let off.

Willful ignorance should not be an excuse. eVerify is required in Alabama and Mississippi. If these employers didn't weed out illegals it's because they did not follow the law requiring them to do so. And if the government had the time and resources to plan the raid to round up the illegals then they had the time to get arrest warrants on the employers as well.

37 posted on 08/12/2019 2:40:28 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

There is willful ignorance and then there are people/companies that are innocently duped. Like I said, I’ve seen documentation that’s even more convincing than my own genuine docs being flashed by self-admitted illegals.

Also, check upthread - there’s a lot of restrictions today on what documents employers can ask for and verify, short of eVerify.


38 posted on 08/12/2019 2:51:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
There is willful ignorance and then there are people/companies that are innocently duped. Like I said, I’ve seen documentation that’s even more convincing than my own genuine docs being flashed by self-admitted illegals.

Crap. These people didn't know because they didn't want to know.

39 posted on 08/12/2019 3:05:24 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I wasn’t the employer, but I was doing IT work for their HR department when the illegals with the documentation were hired. They presented themselves as US citizens and had documentation obtained through forgery and identity theft. The employer couldn’t use eVerify and as I said, their documentation was better than my own.

HR did what they were legally able to do and ended up hiring them (and several actual Americans at the same time, it was for a new road crew). The only reason they were caught was when the company won a bid for construction on a military reserve and all the employees had to undergo military background checks. When confronted by investigators, the persons everyone had thought to be Americans admitted they were illegals.


40 posted on 08/12/2019 3:12:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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