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Cuccinelli says Trump didn't send wrong message releasing illegal immigrant employer
Washington Examiner ^ | Aug. 12, 2019

Posted on 08/12/2019 9:18:15 AM PDT by deplorableindc

Senior Trump administration official Ken Cuccinelli said Monday he doesn't think President Trump sent the wrong message by giving his first prison commutation to a man who was one of the nation's largest employers of illegal immigrants.

The acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a hardliner on immigration policy, said the Trump administration's message is one of toughness, not leniency, after raids this month of seven food processing plants in Mississippi resulted in 680 arrests.

"I don't think so," Cuccinelli said, regarding whether the 2017 release of Sholom Rubashkin sent the wrong message. The former Iowa meatpacking executive was seven years into a 27-year sentence. "The president does those one person at a time."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: Mississippi; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; immigration; iowa; kencuccinelli; lurkinanloomin; michaelcorleone; mississippi; readpostnumber2; sholomrubashkin; trumpillegals
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1 posted on 08/12/2019 9:18:15 AM PDT by deplorableindc
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To: deplorableindc

It sent the wrong message to me.


2 posted on 08/12/2019 9:20:58 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: deplorableindc
Prosecutors said at sentencing that Rubashkin was found to have "cheated a bank and others out of a staggering amount of money — more than $26 million." His conviction on 86 federal counts was upheld on appeal. Prosecutors did not pursue immigration charges, focusing on the more serious financial crimes.

So is this sleaze still in jail or not? Either way this presidential commutaion STINKS!

3 posted on 08/12/2019 9:25:56 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: deplorableindc

He was not convicted of hiring illegals. He was sentenced for bank fraud.

Some underlings took the rap for illegals.


4 posted on 08/12/2019 9:27:05 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: deplorableindc

“I don’t think so,” Cuccinelli said, regarding whether the 2017 release of Sholom Rubashkin sent the wrong message. The former Iowa meatpacking executive was seven years into a 27-year sentence. “The president does those one person at a time.”

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Obviously, a corrupt reporter was debating him, trying to get an answer to damage Trump.


5 posted on 08/12/2019 9:28:12 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: deplorableindc
The acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a hardliner on immigration policy, said the Trump administration's message is one of toughness, not leniency, after raids this month of seven food processing plants in Mississippi resulted in 680 arrests.

Toughness on the illegal, leniency on those who employ them. Reverse that and the illegal immigrant problem could very well take care of itself.

6 posted on 08/12/2019 9:30:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Menehune56
So is this sleaze still in jail or not?

Not.

Either way this presidential commutaion STINKS!

No argument here.

7 posted on 08/12/2019 9:33:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: deplorableindc
If e-verify were law, I’d have a problem with this but it’s not so I’m okay with it. You’d be surprised how many illegals have legit documents that you’re technically, not allowed to even ask to see. Additionally, the government’s own forms also tell you that you cannot deny employment based on someone not coughing up documents. Employment + illegal immigration + government = confusing minefield .... on purpose.
8 posted on 08/12/2019 9:33:17 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: deplorableindc

Depends who the ‘message’ is for:

For those hoping that the President runs out the clock and ends up doing nothing meaningful with illegals, this is welcome news. One step closer to a fundamental transformation to socialism and political corruption.

To patriotic, law abiding, peaceable American citizens, this is very unwelcome and troubling news.


9 posted on 08/12/2019 9:33:27 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: deplorableindc
According to the White House, because Rubashkin’s 27-year sentence, while warranted, was too harsh relative to crimes of a similar nature. That view was supported by legislators in both parties, including Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California, and three former U.S. attorneys general.

The time is here to recognize we have a tiered justice system. It's no longer guilty or not guilty but who you are in the ruling class.

10 posted on 08/12/2019 9:35:42 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Moonman62

Obviously, a corrupt reporter

On the contrary, it’s the kind of question s real reporter asks. The commutation doesn’t seem consistent with the presidents policy on illegal immigration, so what gives? I’d ask that question if I were sitting in the reporters chair


11 posted on 08/12/2019 9:36:59 AM PDT by rintintin
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On the contrary, it’s the kind of question s real reporter asks. The commutation doesn’t seem consistent with the presidents policy on illegal immigration, so what gives? I’d ask that question if I were sitting in the reporters chair

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Wasn’t the reason given when the commutation was granted?


12 posted on 08/12/2019 9:44:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: deplorableindc

I’d like to be commuted for illegal meatpacking when I grow up


13 posted on 08/12/2019 9:45:20 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: jjotto

> He was not convicted of hiring illegals. He was sentenced for bank fraud. <

You’re right. Nevertheless, he was very involved in the hiring of illegals. And it absolutely sends the wrong message.

Bottom line: This commutation stinks, it stinks to high heaven. This is not some guy who accidentally ran afoul of some obscure federal law. Rubashkin cheated banks out of millions. He should be in prison for decades.

This type of political commutation is something Bill Clinton would have done.


14 posted on 08/12/2019 9:47:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Hope red flag rules charm ya. The bump srock ban was a foot in the door. We allowed it.


15 posted on 08/12/2019 9:50:35 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged cash, a medicare card control.)
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To: Moonman62

Wasn’t the reason given when the commutation was granted?

You tell me. You’re the one who says it’s “corrupt” to ask tough questions about why this guy was commuted.


16 posted on 08/12/2019 9:51:58 AM PDT by rintintin
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

We too, can dodge taxes right?


17 posted on 08/12/2019 9:52:13 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged cash, a medicare card control.)
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To: momincombatboots

The odd thing is that binary triggers do the same thing and were not banned.
Instead they decided (completely irrationally) that a piece of plastic was a machine gun.


18 posted on 08/12/2019 9:53:15 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rintintin

I have personal knowledge of the case. The Feds didn’t try him on the illegals because they didn’t want a precedent of hard time for hiring illegals.

The bank fraud stuff was kind of a joke. He did more than hire illegals. He was involved with selling US visas overseas and having illegals assume the identity of legal visa holders, and other weird stuff. There was doubt about how much he knew exactly, but for sure he cooperated with illegality.

His commutation came because there wasn’t any other example of anyone getting such a sentence for what he was charged with.


19 posted on 08/12/2019 9:55:18 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It was not they.. it was Prez Trump.. and he is back at it. With so many wonderful pro life policies, he still doesn’t get this one right preserves all the rest.
Everyone here forgot he banned bumpstocks. They declared it strategic, as they are this one.


20 posted on 08/12/2019 9:57:14 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged cash, a medicare card control.)
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