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1 posted on 08/11/2019 10:15:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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GOP neocons and RINOs will force him to do that.


2 posted on 08/11/2019 10:21:57 PM PDT by granada
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President Trump is a political genius, very unlikely that that he is not fully aware that political violence in this country almost exclusively comes from those who hate with a demonic desperation to thwart his MAGA agenda, pro-God, pro-patriotism agenda.


3 posted on 08/11/2019 10:26:42 PM PDT by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch (Clean out Federal Law Enforcement, top-to-bottom)
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I hope the article is right and it makes a good case that he is once again using “Drunken Monkey” Wu-Shu tactics.

BUT I am already ticked off about the illegal bumpstock ban which may have been an attempt to “throw the left a meaningless bone” but was still totally illegal, a horrible precedent and a serious blow to the overton window.

All this talk about gun control after the recent shotings is doing even more damage to the overton window too.


4 posted on 08/11/2019 10:27:37 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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Comments?”

None good.

I wonder why Kurt Schlichter thinks that “improved background checks” and red flag laws with “due process considerations” aren’t political suicide themselves?

5 posted on 08/11/2019 10:30:01 PM PDT by SIDENET
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A) Sick of people turning the heat on Trump when it needs to be on the corrupt leadership of the NRA. They need to get their act together and Wayne Lapierre is a creep!

B) Florida
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Michigan

Among others are the states Trump needs to win...to win...Is writer suggesting that ‘solidly’ red states will go Dem should Trump make any move?

People sitting out the vote only to leave us with a socialist in office instead? Well that’s a nice scenario ain’t it?!


6 posted on 08/11/2019 10:31:22 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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He’s one of us.

He’s playing them.

They will ask for the moon, he has veto pen and the bully pulpit.


9 posted on 08/11/2019 10:39:04 PM PDT by Bobalu (The Nobel Peace Prize doesn't deserve Trump.)
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They never thought she would loose.


12 posted on 08/11/2019 10:54:38 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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Ivanka is likely weeping for gun control response and the GOPe and RINOs will tag along. We are at risk of Trump signing whatever comes to his desk unless enough clear voices speak up and say No! Or, more constructively, how about funding a study of red flag laws to model something that respects individual rights, offers due process, and recourse to keep or restore rights? And, how about tying that to an end of deadly Gun Free Zones? And, while we are at it, national reciprocity?


13 posted on 08/11/2019 10:56:55 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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Hopefully.


15 posted on 08/11/2019 11:02:53 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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Red Flag laws are a big fat nose under the tent. So are extended background checks which precedes gun confiscation. No one wants to see madmen armed but more importantly; no one but the gun-grabbers want to see all of us disarmed. In their utopian world view all crime will stop if we cannot protect ourselves because the all knowing and all powerful wonderful wizard of OZ, er, the government will see to our protection.

At the same time cow farts will look like rainbow clouds and the Easter Bunny will be taking the next census. This is how the unicorn coalition thinks.

They can't see nor accept the way the world is; they can only envision their world view which is pure fantasy. They are truly and immeasurably dangerous. Far more dangerous than the mass shooters will ever be because as we saw during the last century corrupt governments kill their own people deliberately and mercilessly to the tune of 150 million souls lost.


21 posted on 08/11/2019 11:31:50 PM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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Remember him dangling dreamers to get wall funding, then getting wall funding anyway while still being able to say Dems were to blame for not helping dreamers by refusing to deal?

I think something similar will develop from this.


22 posted on 08/11/2019 11:33:48 PM PDT by zencycler
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I don't know if the President has articulated it, but it would be helpful to point out without ambiguity that the entire gun ‘debate’ is being grotesquely mischaracterized and lied about by the very leftwing political culture that both glorifies violence, and fans the flames of conspiracy that has the intended and predictable consequences of ‘setting off’ individuals with mental health problems or other ‘issues’. And in light of that, that he as President will not only resist the left’s call for ‘gun control’, but will actually champion legislation to strengthen the 2’nd amendment so that no citizen may again have to die defenseless in a ‘gun-free-zone”.

That's called taking political lemons and making lemonade.

23 posted on 08/11/2019 11:34:39 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Our ability to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government is the only thing we have left. Take that away and it’s over anyway.


24 posted on 08/12/2019 12:53:30 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has beco</me my worst enema.)
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Second guessing DJT is and always was a fool’s game.


25 posted on 08/12/2019 1:43:57 AM PDT by arthurus (2ptb nh)
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Any one who would vote for a dem it sit on their hands or vote third party instead of voting Trump is insane. That got us Obama....not once but twice.

Every election is critical. The socialist/communist are very close. Every vote is critical


27 posted on 08/12/2019 2:18:41 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Re: “Unlikely to betray us on guns”

That’s not exactly the ringing endorsement I was hoping for.

My top two issues are massive immigration and insane government spending and government debt.

I can’t claim that Trump has betrayed me on those issues because I never believed anything he said about immigration, spending, or debt in the first place.

If Trump decides to move Left on guns, he will use the same time honored strategy he uses for everything else....

“I’m helpless.”

Helpless against the courts. Helpless against the Democrat controlled House. Helpless against the RINO leadership. Helpless against existing laws and regulations. Helpless against the MSM. Helpless against the Deep State. And, helplessly betrayed by every person he appoints.


32 posted on 08/12/2019 2:40:33 AM PDT by zeestephen
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I am frankly tired of the normal shriekers who wail “sell out” every time some WAPO journalist tries to convince him to do so, and then the howls and wails go up from the usual crowd in the gun community.

Can you not see you are being manipulated by the press and the leftist establishment? Sometimes being cynical is not “wise” but being a pushover for someone else’s agenda. Stop and think about it. Trump is, going away, THE most savvy and shrewd and politically aware guy I have ever seen. He knows who is base is, plays to THEM with his tweets, and is very careful not to alienate them. He stirs up stuff deliberately to keep them on his side, and either enraged, amused, or disgusted by the leftist media. Do you REALLY think he will just say “oh well, we have to disavow 2A because... mass shootings?” Really??? You buy that crap?

He is a politician, or at least a political figure. He understands that you cant just piss into the wind of public opinion...., but he also knows that public opinion is NOT the elites propaganda spew. That is what got him elected, and he gets that.

Even if you think he has ZERO principles, and is utterly Machiavellian in his decision making, he knows what got him elected, and what the critical elements in that the decision making process to vote for him are.

He also knows where the bodies are with the Clinton murder cabal. How long do you think he will live if they take over.

Crap, if *I* can figure this out, do you think he is so stupid he cannot?

Show some basic reasoning, people.


33 posted on 08/12/2019 3:08:59 AM PDT by mostly_lies
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Schlichter makes a good case.

I have thought the same, but President Trump’s tactics do make one nervous.

This comes at a time when the NRA is in disarray because of internal politics and abuse, and external attacks by Cuomo in New York, where the NRA is legally incorporated.


34 posted on 08/12/2019 3:26:40 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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What would the alternative be? Let in a dem who would be even worse? Disillusioned Trump supporters would for the most part have to choose the lesser evil.


35 posted on 08/12/2019 3:33:55 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To go left on guns would be, at a minimum, political suicide

He allowed - nay, insisted - that the BATF declare bumpstocks to be NFA items.

What's next? Standard size AR magazines?

I'm in wait and see mode, but also buying mags.

36 posted on 08/12/2019 3:44:56 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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