Posted on 08/08/2019 6:15:32 AM PDT by Mariner
I will say I find most of the people who are self medicating have underlying problems.
Drug abuse to extremes, meth, pot, coke, whatever have a lot of imbalances. They are trying to get to feeling “good” or “better” or whatever that means. The drug impacts them for a short time and they continue.
Alcohol is another drug, where you probably have met someone who has drastic changes when they are drinking, possibly they are not able to metabolize it properly and act erratic, or it magnifies the issues they are having with the lack of inhibitions. While YOU as an individual may not show some of these signs, a large group of people do have issues with drugs and alcohol. Those people then do extreme things. Study 1000 people, you will find outliers. People who are hardly impacted by any but the largest amounts, and others who even a small amount go crazy. Most are in the middle of the bell curve, but we are seeing the issues with those who are so messed up that they will never be able to have an even close to normal relationship with the drug/drink or the world.
Is it the drug as the problem, or they symptom of the problem with their minds and self control? I’d say a lot of both.
Drugs do cause people to make bad decisions.
We don’t know about these shooters but we do know Trayvon made a stupid mistake after smoking pot. The meth head who refused to leave our fenced in yard made a stupid mistake. Now, to see if they would have made the same stupid mistakes without the drugs or were the drugs a facilitator.
Another stupid mistake.
I have first hand knowledge of what marijuana can do to people as I have a son whose life was destroyed by it. I see the idiotic statements here and elsewhere on the Net and am simply appalled by the abject ignorance.
As for the “psychotropic drugs” bandied here as evil, they have literally saved my son’s life multiple times. When he stays on them, and thankfully he now does, he stays sane. He has also finally learned that dopeheads are to be avoided at all costs as they try to convince him to smoke marijuana as they claim it will help him. Whenever he complied with their wishes, he would end up back in the hospital for a few weeks as it would send him to crazy town that he didn’t return from without help from the docs.
There is nothing more evil than the willfully ignorant dopehead imo. Most are liberals, but unfortunately, we have more than our fair share as well.
Alcohol is a psychotropic drug.
And is anyone arguing that alcohol does not adversely affect the brain? "They're doing it too" is not a logical argument.
Oh Please!! Spare me the ADHD crap brought to you by the false god of psychiatry.
This
Have to walk the walk to “ get it”
Glad your son is making it through
Mine didn’t
And as a person who's represented criminal defendants for over 30 years I can assure you that alcohol is the drug most associated with crime by a long shot.
After working on the streets for 25 years coming into daily contact with mentally ill people... there is not even a smidge of doubt in my mind that there is a very strong association with long term marijuana use and mental illness. But one does not have to be a big city firefighter to see and understand this. At this point of you have been around for a few decades in an area where pot had been popular all you have to do is think about your long term pot smoking friends, associates, and family members and a strong correlation between pot, mental illness, and failed lives in general is usually pretty clear.
But marijuana smokers themselves have the strongest form of cognitive dissonance that I have ever seen from any group. Talk to long term “homeless” people and chances are that you will find that around 95% of them are long term marijuana users and advocates. But do any of them associate their current mental issues, situation and lack of motivation to improve their lot in life with pot? Basically none of them make this association.
Nothing is more comical to me than speaking with long term pot users who frequently have a plethora of predictable health, mental, and social problems. Very few of them will admit that pot might be one of the root causes of many of their difficulties. Most will tell you that they would be willing to give up anything but marijuana and are likely to advocate for what they perceive as its many benefits from improving their outlook to clearing up their dog’s itchy skin. (True story from a homeless aquaintance.)
Saddly, alcohol and marijuana probably have a more corrosive impact on the decline of our society than any other substances. And our sophisticated liberal society, the media, celebrities, and Hollywood, are all promoters of both substances. You could not make up stranger fiction.
I am directly seeing the results of drivers on pot here in Oregon. Statistics also are showing an increase in traffic fatalities here and in Colorado due to pot head drivers.
People in Oregon voted for pot as well as the Godless communist politicians here.
I had a friend lose it on a 5 day weed smoking binge. He was almost shot by police after threatening to kill people with a knife. After seeing it in real life, “Reffer Madness” is very real
The weed today aint what it used to be as it’s a hell of a lot stronger.
Agreed,
We are Doomed!
Yep AmeriCANTS are so doped up they can’t tell if they are still women, man whatever:-)
It Is Stronger.
I’m so sorry, silverleaf. We’ve had many times that he almost didn’t make it. We have been incredibly lucky. My heart goes out to you. No one knows the horrors of it until they experience it unfortunately.
Mental health maybe a red herring but the psychiatric drugs are not. +95% of all mass shooters used them.
But alcohol can metabolize out of the average person’s system in a day and even in a few hours depending on the amount consumed.
Marijuana can linger for days and days. I wonder what that does to the brain if someone is a chronic user?
“Tetrahydrocannabinol, the chemical in marijuana that makes people feel “high,” can stay in the body for several days or even weeks.
The length of time this chemical stays in the body or continues to show in a drug test depends on many factors. These include:
how much body fat a person has
how often they consume the drug
how much someone smokes
the sensitivity of the drug test
Drugs such as alcohol may completely disappear from the body in just a few hours. In comparison, weed lingers much longer.
Drug tests can detect tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in urine, blood, and hair for many days after use, while saliva tests can only detect THC for a few hours. This is because of the way the body metabolizes THC.
THC is a lipid-soluble chemical. This means that it binds to fat in the body, which increases the length of time it takes for someone to eliminate THC completely. . . . . “
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324315.php
alcohol alone didn't created mass shootings 100 years ago.
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