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1 posted on 08/07/2019 9:34:01 PM PDT by familyop
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The democrats have had that appetite for years. I have been impressed with trump as president, but I don’t trust him on the 2nd amendment.


2 posted on 08/07/2019 9:41:10 PM PDT by Yogafist
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The people staunchly pushing for red flag will never vote for Trump no matter what he does. So we’ll see what Trump ends up doing.

IMO Trump needs to take the conversation to another, more serious level. While the media talks about racism (what instigated all the mass killers before we had a ‘racist president’?) there are serious issues to explore. For example, we know the guy in Dayton admitted to a ‘mental illness’. In either case both of the murderers clearly were mentally ill, ungrounded. I would like to know if either of them, or both of them, were taking mood altering drugs, anti-depressants etc. Or, if they were addicted to illicit drugs.

I know this is not a unique observation, but a number of the previous mass murderers were on mood altering prescriptions. Those drugs may work great for 99% of the people but they all say right on their labels that in small numbers of subjects tested they exhibited paranoia, rage, hallucination, ideation etc. Just run the numbers if X million people are on these drugs that means X thousands of people are being driven mad.


3 posted on 08/07/2019 9:44:51 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Dayton mass shooter supported violent Antifa movement
One America News Network
Published on Aug 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY12fyO6uZM


4 posted on 08/07/2019 9:45:42 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Wayne needs to get with the program.

From reports I read the guns used were legally purchased so what do enhanced background checks get us? They would close a loophole in private gun sales perhaps.

"Red flag" laws are being proposed as a grant to states to fund their implementation thus protecting states rights and federalism. We see story after story where law enforcement knew something about a perp before hand. Florida, for example. They need the tools to get to these nut cases.

What Sen Graham is proposing seems reasonable and protects due process.

Because it's implemented at the state-level, we can police our states and hold them accountable. That's how it should be.

6 posted on 08/07/2019 9:48:31 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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President Trump is baiting the Democrats on Second Amendment restrictions. He will never sign any measures that will restrict the right of the people to bear arms. He has nothing to gain by such proposals.


7 posted on 08/07/2019 9:50:34 PM PDT by Meatspace
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There already ARE background checks when you purchase a firearm from a dealer.

Is he talking about PRIVATE sales? NONE of the shootings in recent years have involved firearms that were purchased from private sellers.

Shooters in recent years passed background checks because they didn’t have any criminal convictions; they were not prohibited persons.

If the president wants to do something, he can ban “gun free” zones.

Also, most of these shooters in the last ten years were in their late teens to early - mid twenties.

Stop giving these young men Ritalin and other psychotropic drugs. It causes some of them to go crazy.

While there at it, stop booting God out of the schools. Nature abhors a vacuum, and what replaces God is dangerous and evil.


8 posted on 08/07/2019 9:53:09 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban liberals, NOT guns.)
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It’s good to see Trump is on the ball.


10 posted on 08/07/2019 9:54:21 PM PDT by Crucial
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This is pretty much the only way for President Trump to lose in 2020.


24 posted on 08/07/2019 10:30:08 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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How would he explain not covering the GOP congress members who lost last year big enough to lose the House? Next year would be a repeat in the Senate. NO RED FLAG law!!!!!!


29 posted on 08/07/2019 10:39:15 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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LaPierre seems to have gone bad, and the President is getting some not-too-good advice.

Make your voices heard, folks. Red Flag is exactly that, it’s the whole head of the camel, and maybe its front hump. The nose has been there for a long time...


32 posted on 08/07/2019 10:49:53 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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Trump is a great President.

Obama sucks.

Yet Obama was better with the 2a.

Darn!


43 posted on 08/08/2019 12:46:45 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Fox Shadowbans People On Comments)
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To: familyop

Wayne will likely agree to whatever Trump asks in an effort to keep his ass out of jail.


58 posted on 08/08/2019 5:44:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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The question is, how would background checks stop killer Democrats?


61 posted on 08/08/2019 6:06:00 AM PDT by D Rider
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As I posted yesterday, red flag laws:

Catch 22:
You can’t own a gun if you’re crazy.
You must be crazy if you own a gun.

That’s how it will go, eventually. Trump better not support red flag laws. He already shot himself in the foot with the bump stock ban.


62 posted on 08/08/2019 6:07:05 AM PDT by suthener
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Political Cover is NOT the kind of cover you dirt-rats are going to need.


63 posted on 08/08/2019 6:10:26 AM PDT by The Toll
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Fixing the NICS system such that the military and all states’ databases are included is fine. The NRA has endorsed that for years.

Universal background checks and expanded red flag laws are suicide for Republicans. A lot of us will sit out the next election if the Republicans cave on these two issues.


69 posted on 08/08/2019 10:35:01 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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