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Connor Betts' ex-girlfriend reveals he showed her a video of a mass shooting on their first date
Daily Mail ^ | August 6th 2019 | Emily Crane

Posted on 08/06/2019 11:10:12 AM PDT by detective

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To: detective

And there was a second date?


41 posted on 08/06/2019 1:01:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: JohnBovenmyer

ahem, some of those others might be juvenile victims of the juvenile perpetrators. Redactions will still be necessary.


42 posted on 08/06/2019 1:15:34 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: The Toll

Yes, perhaps, but did she call the media or did the media call her? Either way, I am please that a discussion about how mental illness relates to these kind of violent crimes has been started. I think the young man may have been schizophrenic or bipolar, and likely wasn’t getting proper treatment, not that I know what proper treatment is. I’d also like to see serious investigation into the pharmaceuticals that are being given routinely for people who do have mental illness.


43 posted on 08/06/2019 1:17:46 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

I was friends with John Noveske of Noveske Rifles prior to his death. I’m not too koo koo on the conspiracy stuff, but he did a lot of leg work on this before his demise.

https://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/stop-big-government/gun-news-rifle-manufacturer-john-noveske-mysteriously-killed-shortly-after-005014


44 posted on 08/06/2019 1:25:30 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: detective

I suspect she’s a fraud.


45 posted on 08/06/2019 1:41:53 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: JonPreston
Ever notice how the police no longer give a motive for most criminal behavior? This allows their accomplices in the media to fill in the blanks for us.

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Good point, sir.

Now, it's almost time to stick a fork in a few Marlins again.

;-)

I think I'm going to be watching the floundering Pirates through a rain delay or two tonight.

But this young guy I saw when he first came up this year and loved everything he did on the field, Bryan Reynolds is accumulating enough plate appearances to challenge McNeil and Yelich. They're all hitting .336 - .337. Pretty cool.

46 posted on 08/06/2019 2:16:43 PM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: grobdriver

no, but they do to commit suicide....on not so busy days. I know.They also check the place out in advance.


47 posted on 08/06/2019 2:21:02 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: The Toll

Chris Kyle, Some youtube guy associated with FPS russia? were also killed about the same time as Noveske. Massad Ayoob was also involved in a helicopter crash with that 2 month span iirc. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, 3 times is enemy action.

Noveske was manufacturing, Kyle could have been popular leadership, the you tube guy was new media, and Ayoob old media....

conspiracy? possibly.


48 posted on 08/06/2019 2:27:27 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: detective

“She said he had twice held a gun in his mouth and was prepared to pull the trigger. Johnson added that ‘getting shot is exactly what he wanted’.”

And she did nothing.


49 posted on 08/06/2019 2:51:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

It doesn’t even have to be the smart money to know that you and I are footing the bill


50 posted on 08/06/2019 4:10:21 PM PDT by newbie 10-21-00
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To: Valpal1

Redact for valid, independent privacy issues. Kid’s record includes reference to other kids, remove anything that would show which other kid. Stick a gun in another kids face a year before committing a mass shooting; I’d want to know that happened, but don’t need to know the victim’s name. Kid interacting with teacher, counselor, social worker, school cop, etc., I want to know about it. I’m not necessarily looking to blame them, but to learn to better identify dangerously troubled kids, what interventions work for them and what don’t. But if there is an egregious ‘coward of the county’ either not following current rules, or pushing bad policies, their behavior shouldn’t be protected behind privacy claims in the perp’s name. I want the perp’s medical history and drug history. The information gleaned from studying that from several shooters may save the lives of would be future shooters and their would be victims. As it is now the only people who seem to learn from previous mass shooters are the next wave of wanna be shooters.


51 posted on 08/06/2019 4:34:30 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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To: lee martell
Have you ever been to a gun range? What do you think they have a staff psychologist that checks out prospective customers? Do believe a mental defective looking to get range time would give an honest answer if asked? Where in the reports has it been stated that a psychologist/psychiatrist diagnosed Bett's with mental illness? Just because this girl says he told her he was disturbed doesn't mean he was diagnosed.........which clearly he wasn't if he was able to legally purchase his weapon.

And as for not letting mentally disturbed people on a range, that would mean about half the cops I know would be prohibited.

Actually I agree mentally disturbed should not be allowed on a range but damned if I can figure out how to do that by looking at them, hey maybe would could make them wear a gold star or something on their clothing?

52 posted on 08/06/2019 4:40:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I’d also add that knowing their past dirty laundry would be released if their mass shooting plan succeeds might embarrass some into either not shooting or at worst shooting just themselves.


53 posted on 08/06/2019 4:41:27 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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To: lee martell

“Do most gun ranges have any restrictions on people with histories of mental illness?”

Back in the mid 80’s AIDs was becoming recognized. Because of the AIDs epidemic, medical privacy started to became a major issue and somehow privacy for those with mental illness became part of that argument.(Guess it made for a better sell.)

(Since then we got the HITECH act that gave us electronic medical records. The lobbyist for HITECH were the data mining people. I guess eventually we will have no medical privacy.)

As it stands now, I don’t know of any exemptions to the Federal privacy rules where by mental illness can even be reported to authorities let alone gun retailers.


54 posted on 08/06/2019 5:56:11 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

Interesting. I didn’t know about that back history.


55 posted on 08/06/2019 6:06:30 PM PDT by lee martell
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