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Trump calls for social media companies to ‘detect mass shooters before they strike’
The Verge ^ | 8/5/2019 | colin lecher

Posted on 08/05/2019 12:06:30 PM PDT by Pollard

After two recent mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, President Trump said his administration would ask social media companies to develop tools that could detect potential mass shooters.

While delivering a speech on the recent violence, Trump said “we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs,” and he suggested social media companies could develop new ways of catching “red flags.”

“I am directing the Department of Justice to work in partnership with local state and federal agencies, as well as social media companies, to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike,” Trump said in the speech.

While the president did not specify what those “tools” might look like, Trump seemed to be suggesting that companies could use predictive software to single out potential shooters based on their activity on a platform. Crucially, this would mean taking action before a person commits violent crimes. Data-mining tools are in wide use, but creating a detection system for violence would inevitably raise a host of privacy and accountability issues.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 8chan; banglist; dayton; elpaso; facebook; fascistbook; markzuckerberg; nra; ohio; precrime; secondamendment; texas; trump; zuckerberg
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To: semantic; reasonisfaith
So too Trump; his dialogue and manner doesn't exhibit the qualities a Lincoln would express.

This was posted by someone who ...

1. Never met Lincoln.
2. Never saw him speak in person.
3. Never heard him speak in person.
4. Never saw a video clip of him speaking.
5. Never heard an audio clip of him speaking.

And you're going to tell us about his "dialogue and manner?"

I agree with ReasonIsFaith. That was one of the dumbest posts I've seen here in a long time.

61 posted on 08/05/2019 1:40:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: bigbob

We need to stop worrying so much about the rights of the mentally ill and worry about the rights of others to be safe and lock up people who need it. Just as was done years ago.

We need to arm up so when someone decides to shoot people that person can be taken out. Just like in the wild west, we will have to civilize this country again.

I don’t see anything else working and I don’t see politicians supporting either answer so I don’t know where that leaves us but I don’t see other solutions that will work.


62 posted on 08/05/2019 1:41:51 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8
Read your post again and figure this all out, Tammy8.

They're already hassling and silencing conservatives. Trump is saying these shootings are occurring BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SCRUTINIZING LIBERALS.

63 posted on 08/05/2019 1:42:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: z3n

Do you trust the socialists not to deliberately misuse it to further their agenda? Just as they do every day they will make it another tool for them. I can’t believe that is not obvious to everyone.


64 posted on 08/05/2019 1:46:59 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

Hard to believe he’s unaware. He just had a Social Media Summit on the silencing of conservatives.

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65 posted on 08/05/2019 1:48:20 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Alberta's Child

In the real world of social media the socialists threaten people every day...even prominent politicians advocate and make threats. If it is reported nothing is done. Nothing.

Conservatives are now silenced for posting things that are conservative, not threatening in any way.

So why do you assume it will be done fairly and properly?


66 posted on 08/05/2019 1:50:22 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Pollard

If they just shut down the social media sites for 48 hours we’d have mass suicides of imbalanced people not mass shootings by imbalance people.


67 posted on 08/05/2019 1:52:36 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Alberta's Child

He is asking the foxes to guard the hen house from their relatives and friends the foxes and you think that will help? Really?


68 posted on 08/05/2019 1:53:12 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Pollard

Chronic anti-Trumpers suddenly get diarrhea of the mouth as soon as they think the deep state set them up for a score.

But like the deep staters, their attempts will fail because they don’t know the stupidity of their ideas.


69 posted on 08/05/2019 1:56:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Can of worms to be easily abused.


70 posted on 08/05/2019 2:13:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Pollard

A tool to open up the social media corps ?


71 posted on 08/05/2019 2:45:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Tammy8
1. I'm not assuming it will be done "fairly and properly."

2. If these social media outlets ban conservatives as a matter of course, then any mutant who posts a manifesto online and then shoots up a WalMart in El Paso CAN'T be a conservative -- right?

3. The goal here isn't to use social media to prevent future shootings. It's to hold social media RESPONSIBLE for them ... when they DON'T do it "fairly and properly."

Think about it. There is absolutely no downside to blaming radical leftist organizations for this violence.

72 posted on 08/05/2019 2:50:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Pollard

They can’t do that if they’re going to ban any and all accounts for posting articles having anything to do with guns or violence, now can they?


73 posted on 08/05/2019 3:31:04 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

“He’s listening to that liberal idiot Ivanka.”

You sound like Ann Coulter


74 posted on 08/05/2019 5:49:59 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: Pollard

He is thinking like a pragmatic negotiator, which is what he; he is not an ideological conservative.

I voted for him knowing that, so I am not surprised.


75 posted on 08/05/2019 6:37:31 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: rintintin

Sorry, but it’s true.

She’s good looking, but she’s a liberal and belongs in New York helping her brothers run their father’s vast holdings.

And what ever happened to her clothing and accessory line? It is, or was, a large business.

Ann Coulter? Used to like her, haven’t been able to stand her for a long time now.


76 posted on 08/05/2019 7:57:25 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban liberals, NOT guns.)
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To: Pollard

They won’t do it because 98% of those tagged will be hard core Leftists...


77 posted on 08/06/2019 3:17:56 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Pollard

Holding people ‘accountable’ and enforcing the rule of law would go a long way in healing this country.....


78 posted on 08/06/2019 4:44:56 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Envisioning

Exactly.


79 posted on 08/06/2019 4:50:21 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Tammy8

Not that corrupt bureaucrats and politicians wont try to exploit it, but I still think that if the law is written to use (not counter) constitutional provisions that protect people’s rights, then I am open to the idea.

A warrant should be sought, from a judge, in order to seek involuntary testing and examination (and detainment), just like if someone is a criminal suspect.

However, unlike criminal warrants, this law should be written to protect privacy. Warrants, screening results, and even any initial application of suspicion should not be a matter of public record, unless released by the individual. This is to protect the reputation those who receive suspicion but who do not qualify for assistance and intervention as well as to dissuade people from using this system as a weapon against their enemies.

Also, to avoid individual bureaucrats from rigging results, they should only be given the power to recommend further evaluation or intervention, and any intervening detainment should be very short, although potentially necessary for public safety. The process should be speedy, but the final evaluation should be by a commitee or a panel, and should probably work something like a FISA court, although I understand we now know those get abused too.

Finally, there should be a process written into the law allowing people to file a complaint and have the process reviewed by an independent court if they believe they have been unfairly targeted.


80 posted on 08/06/2019 5:30:22 AM PDT by z3n
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