Again, there's no need for you to lie about this, but you chose to anyway.
So who is the father of your lies?
Kalamata: "I disagree with his tactic of lumping into the category of holocaust denier everyone who disagrees with his warped world-view, which are the same tactics you use. "
Nothing in Shermer's Holocaust Denier book says anything about other categories of deniers.
So I'll ask again, was Shermer wrong about Holocaust Denial?
Kalamata: "Did Shermer mention that the Nazi doctrine of racial superiority, which “justified” the holocaust, had it roots in Darwinism?
Have you?"
I'll say it again: blaming the Holocaust on evolution theory is like blaming the 9/11 attacks on the breakfast those terrorists ate.
Kalamata: "I really am surprised (amazed, actually) that you have never heard of your hero’s best friend and sidekick."
Again, you chose to lie when lying was not necessary.
Why?
You lie and fabricate so much, Alinsky Joe, it is difficult to tell when you are telling the truth. You even promote seal and walrus noses and nostrils as transitional blow holes, without a shred of evidence. LOL! We really get a kick out statements like that, Joey.
It is always fun to debate scientific illiterates who pretend to be scientists; but you are exceptionally funny. It is at times difficult to follow your childish antics, but still fun.
By the way, what is/was your profession? Political Science?
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>>Kalamata: "I disagree with his tactic of lumping into the category of holocaust denier everyone who disagrees with his warped world-view, which are the same tactics you use."
>>Joey wrote: Nothing in Shermer's Holocaust Denier book says anything about other categories of deniers.
Really? Did you even read the book? I will supply a few excerpts.
This is one of Shermer's rants against anyone who requires scientific evidence to believe his naturalistic (atheistic) world view:
"Creationists demand 'just one fossil transitional form' that shows evolution. But a single fossil cannot prove evolution. Evolution involves a convergence of fossils and many other lines of evidence, such as DNA sequence comparisons across species. For creationists to disprove evolution they would need to unravel all these independent lines of evidence and find a rival theory that can explain them better than evolution. They cannot, without invoking miracles, which are not a part of science . . . The historical theory of evolution gains confirmation by many independent lines of evidence converging on a single conclusion. Independent sets of data from geology, paleontology, botany, zoology, herpetology, entomology, biogeography, comparative anatomy, physiology, and many other sciences each point to the conclusion that life has evolved." [Shermer & Grobman, "Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It." University of California Press, Rev Ed, 2009, p.32]
The next statement is very clever. Shermer first introduces a few quacks into the discussion, and then conflates them with evidence-seekers who reject the circular arguments of modern Bible-hating "archeologists" – those who use the pretense that the Egyptian Shoshenq WAS the biblical Shishak in order to fabricate dates for historical events in the Ancient Middle East (ANE) that will never, ever match biblical chronology. Slick, huh?
"Cremo sets out to tell 'the hidden history of the human race' and in the process claims that the historical sciences of paleontology, paleoanthropology, and archaeology have conspired—sometimes deliberately, sometimes by default—to cover up evidence that indicates humans have existed in a civilized state, not for tens or hundreds of thousands of years, but for tens or hundreds of millions of years. Rather than have dinosaurs living alongside humans ten thousand years ago as 'young-earth' Christian creationists do, these 'Krishna creationists' (as some call them) have humans living alongside dinosaurs hundreds of millions of years ago. These are very 'old-earth' creationists indeed! Now, why is this denial instead of revision? The archaeologist Brad Lepper illuminates not only why, in his opinion, the authors are wrong but, more important, how he believes they distort and deny the past in order to make it fit their present religious beliefs: 'Cremo and Thompson are selectively credulous to an astonishing degree. They accept without question the testimony of nineteenth-century gold miners and quarrymen, but treat with extreme skepticism (or outright derision) the observations of twentieth-century archaeologists." [Ibid. pp.240-241]
And how about the implications of this reference?
Quoted in T. McIver, “The Protocols of Creationism: Racism, Anti-Semitism and White Supremacy in Christian Fundamentalism,” Skeptic 2, no. 4 (1994): 76-87.
Or, worse, this one:
Shermer, M. 1991. “Science Defended, Science Defined: The Louisiana Creationism Case.” Science, Technology, and Human Values 16, no. 4: 517-39.
What does that have to do with the holocaust? NOTHING! But Shermer intentionally associates those who reject the pseudo-science of evolutionism with holocaust deniers, LIKE YOU HAVE DONE!
"Let us pretend for a moment that the majority of people deny the existence of the Holocaust and that they are in the positions of power. If a mechanism for censorship exists, then the believer in the reality of the Holocaust may now be censored. Would we tolerate this? Of course not. The human mind, no matter what ideas it may generate, must never be quashed. By way of example, when evolutionists were in the minority in Tennessee in 1925 and politically powerful fundamentalists had passed legislation making it a crime to teach evolution in public schools," [Ibid. p.15]
The bottom line is, Shermer is shamelessly using the memory of the holocaust to promote his leftist agenda and his religion of evolutionism/atheism. No objective person can read that book and conclude otherwise. But, then again, you are not objective, Alinsky Joe, so you naturally admire it, and him!
I almost forgot to mention that I had previously mentioned that Shermer's propaganda also links Neo-Nazis to conservative Christians and Freepers, by falsely claiming Neo-Nazis are "right-wingers". Some links are subtle, for example, in this one he promotes fascism as right-wing:
"Consider this: Some Holocaust deniers, particularly those with extreme right-wing leanings, might gain greater acceptance if the crime attached to fascism had never actually happened. Without the Holocaust perhaps fascism would seem a more acceptable alternative to democracy." [Ibid. p.16]
Ironically, the most fascist President our nation has been forced to suffer through was Barrack Obama, who sought complete government control over industry through massive regulation. That is exactly what Hitler and Mussolini did. That is what fascism is.
Other examples of Shermer conflating holocaust deniers and fascists with the conservative right-wing are more in-your-face:
"To our minds, one defining factor in [David] Irving's on-again/off-again flirtation with denial is that he earns his living by lecturing and selling books (a difficult challenge for any author). Seemingly, the more he revises the Holocaust, the more books he sells and the more lecture invitations he receives from denier and right-wing groups." [Ibid. p.53]
"A few months later, we documented him as a white supremacist because he was running with neo-Nazi skinheads and had formed a right-wing organization known as the National Socialist Front." [Ibid. p.94]
So, if you hear those wackos on the left screaming "Nazi!" at conservatives and/or Trump supporters, you can "thank" far-left propagandists, like your hero, Michael Shermer.
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>>Joey said: "So I'll ask again, was Shermer wrong about Holocaust Denial?"
He was disgustingly wrong in using the holocaust as a front to promote his atheist, far-left agenda, as are you.
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>>Kalamata: "Did Shermer mention that the Nazi doctrine of racial superiority, which “justified” the holocaust, had it roots in Darwinism? Have you?"
>>Joey said: "I'll say it again: blaming the Holocaust on evolution theory is like blaming the 9/11 attacks on the breakfast those terrorists ate.
But it is true. It is a permanent part of history. Even Shermer admitted the link, in one of the rare times he didn't blame conservatives by association:
"The racial theories of social Darwinism gave the Nazis and others the scientific sanction they needed to make their racist ideology seem wholly rational and their actions justifiable in defense against what they considered to be a real threat to their nation and their culture." [Ibid. p.227]
The Darwinist roots of the Holocaust are well documented, Alinsky Joe, a small part of which I referenced in previous posts.
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>>Kalamata: "I really am surprised (amazed, actually) that you have never heard of your hero’s best friend and sidekick."
>>Joey said: "Again, you chose to lie when lying was not necessary. Why?
If you didn't lie and fabricate so much, you would be more believable, Alinsky Joe.
Mr. Kalamata