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To: Kalamata; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia
I'm called away today, no time for lengthy responses, but I must say that our poster Kalamata is uncanily similar in style, language, techniques & logic to some Holocaust deniers I spent many months debating many years ago.

Ask yourself, how could any reasonable person deny the WWII murders of millions of Jews?
The answer is: using the same techniques we see Kakamata employs here.

Consider, debating Holocaust deniers I invited them to see the evidence for themselves at a Holocaust museum.
Debating evolution denier Kalamata I invite him to see the evidence for himself at any natural history museum.
The response from deniers in both cases is identical -- they claim there's no evidence to be seen there!
And since they can't see the evidence in those museums, that means, they claim, there is no evidence.

Do they realize what they're doing?
Of course, since at their first hint of an opportunity they turn the tables and accuse yours truly of denial.

They know what denial is and they know they shouldn't do it, so what do they do -- accuse their opponent of their own misdeeds.

Now, in my book there's a name for that type of behavior or mental illness, "Democrat".
But who know, maybe it's not exclusive to Democrats?

210 posted on 08/13/2019 11:57:06 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia

>>I’m called away today, no time for lengthy responses, but I must say that our poster Kalamata is uncanily similar in style, language, techniques & logic to some Holocaust deniers I spent many months debating many years ago.

You disgusting piece of trash! I am of Jewish ancestry, and a strong supporter of Israel.

Con-men like you make me sick!

Me. Kalamata


211 posted on 08/13/2019 12:05:44 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: BroJoeK; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia

When the ad hominems, smears and downright slander starts flying out of the keyboard of the evolutionism cultist, such as BroJoeK, you can tell his world-view is seriously threatened. I recommend you read my responses to his posts so you can understand why he took this extremist misdirection.

Have you read this article by Dr. Jerry Bergman on the Darwinist roots of the holocaust?

https://trueorigin.org/holocaust.php

Dr. Jerry Bergmam, a Jew and a former evolutionist, is also the author of the article underlying this thread. He wrote a great book which I recommend, titled, “Hitler and the Nazi Darwinian Worldview” (Joshua Press, 2013).

https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-Nazi-Darwinian-worldview-Holocaust-ebook/dp/B00E0TVLU0

Mind you, in the world of BroJoeK, the Jew, Jerry Bergman, is a holocaust denier since he is an evolutionism denier. So is James Tour, who is also a Jew, and a subject of BroJoeK’s disdain in this very thread. Dr. David Hillel Gelernter, the subject of Dr. Bergman’s article underlying this thread, is also a Jew and an evolutionism denier.

In short, in the mind of BroJoeK, all Jews are holocaust deniers, if they are also evolutionism deniers. World-views do not get any more bizarro than that.

Again, read my responses to his posts so you can see for yourself why he became so unhinged.

Mr. Kalamata


212 posted on 08/13/2019 1:00:59 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: BroJoeK; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia

I believe this is the part that got the snake-oil salesman running for cover. He wrote:

>>Some scientists practical jokesters decided to test the accuracy of radiometric dating, but without telling the labs how old the rocks were.

Yes, he actually wrote that. LOL! Next:

>>A total fraud, since Potassium-Argon has a half life of 1.3 billion years and is totally inappropriate for material less than 100,000 years old. Your alleged “scientists” here were just tricksters, who had to lie on their paperwork to get those labs to even accept the materials for dating.

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

He wouldn’t recognize science if it zapped him upside the head.

Mr. Kalamata


216 posted on 08/13/2019 7:02:34 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: BroJoeK; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia

More often than not, you only have to scratch the surfact a little bit to see what is underneath.

As you recall, bizarro Joe viciously slandered me and many other Jews with this statement:

>>I’m called away today, no time for lengthy responses, but I must say that our poster Kalamata is uncanily similar in style, language, techniques & logic to some Holocaust deniers I spent many months debating many years ago. Ask yourself, how could any reasonable person deny the WWII murders of millions of Jews? The answer is: using the same techniques we see Kakamata employs here.

Obviously, this was a diabolical attempt to lump opposition to evolutionism in with holocaust denial; and I don’t believe for a minute his claim that he got his scheme from debating holocaust deniers.

Since his post, I have been wracking my brain trying to understand where he came up with such insanity. Then I recalled this statement he wrote to me earlier in this thread:

>>I admire & respect [Michael] Shermer for his work on this: Denying History, Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why do They Say It.<<

I asked him, “What, in particular, did you like about that book?”, but he didn’t respond.

Well, tonight I searched my database for “denier”, “denial” or “denying”, and found this video by Michael Shermer’s wacky sidekick, Donald Prothero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVVOeZwTBIk&t=4m22s

Did you catch what Prothero did? He mentioned Will Storr’s book and then used it as an avenue to lump creationists in with holocaust deniers. Yet, if you read Storr’s book, you will not find that comparison. Storr said a lot of stupid things, but he is not that stupid.

I guess bizarro Joe figured if Prothero did it, then it was okay for him to do it.

I also checked Shermer’s book — the one bizarro Joe mentioned earlier — and the phrase “holocaust denier(s)” is found 68 times.

The bottom line is, books and videos by Shermer and Prothero are dangerous in the hands of immature, impressionable little people like bizarro Joe.

One other point: I am NOT “Kalamata”. I am “Mr. Kalamata”. Big difference!

This is my last post on this matter, until some responds.

Mr. Kalamata


219 posted on 08/13/2019 8:27:48 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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