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To: BroJoeK; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia

More often than not, you only have to scratch the surfact a little bit to see what is underneath.

As you recall, bizarro Joe viciously slandered me and many other Jews with this statement:

>>I’m called away today, no time for lengthy responses, but I must say that our poster Kalamata is uncanily similar in style, language, techniques & logic to some Holocaust deniers I spent many months debating many years ago. Ask yourself, how could any reasonable person deny the WWII murders of millions of Jews? The answer is: using the same techniques we see Kakamata employs here.

Obviously, this was a diabolical attempt to lump opposition to evolutionism in with holocaust denial; and I don’t believe for a minute his claim that he got his scheme from debating holocaust deniers.

Since his post, I have been wracking my brain trying to understand where he came up with such insanity. Then I recalled this statement he wrote to me earlier in this thread:

>>I admire & respect [Michael] Shermer for his work on this: Denying History, Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why do They Say It.<<

I asked him, “What, in particular, did you like about that book?”, but he didn’t respond.

Well, tonight I searched my database for “denier”, “denial” or “denying”, and found this video by Michael Shermer’s wacky sidekick, Donald Prothero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVVOeZwTBIk&t=4m22s

Did you catch what Prothero did? He mentioned Will Storr’s book and then used it as an avenue to lump creationists in with holocaust deniers. Yet, if you read Storr’s book, you will not find that comparison. Storr said a lot of stupid things, but he is not that stupid.

I guess bizarro Joe figured if Prothero did it, then it was okay for him to do it.

I also checked Shermer’s book — the one bizarro Joe mentioned earlier — and the phrase “holocaust denier(s)” is found 68 times.

The bottom line is, books and videos by Shermer and Prothero are dangerous in the hands of immature, impressionable little people like bizarro Joe.

One other point: I am NOT “Kalamata”. I am “Mr. Kalamata”. Big difference!

This is my last post on this matter, until some responds.

Mr. Kalamata


219 posted on 08/13/2019 8:27:48 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata; freedumb2003; bwest; Riley; aspasia
Kalamata: "One other point: I am NOT “Kalamata”. I am “Mr. Kalamata”. Big difference!"

The key point for Kalamata to take away here is that your tone of voice, your use of "logic", your debate tactics in denying evolution are identical to those of Holocaust deniers I debated for many months, many years ago.
In one sense you are superior to them -- so far, no serious vulgarities.
But in all others it's the same old nonsense, just a new subject.

That's when I learned about Michael Shermer.
His book (see above) not only debunks Holocaust denial arguments, but also provides biographies of the then leading deniers.

So we don't hear so much about Holocaust denial anymore -- outside of radical Islam, the denier generation seems to have passed.

But their denial tactics still seem alive & well in posters like Dan Kalamata, only the topic is different.

223 posted on 08/14/2019 6:57:50 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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