[Texas Eagle]

Oh. Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. What science did Darwin initially espouse when it came to how everything came into being?

[IrishBrigade]

‘What science did Darwin initially espouse when it came to how everything came into being?’

Darwinism makes no claim for the origin of existence; it is concerned with the origins of life on earth...

[bert]

As I understand it, Darwin was an observer who traveled the world and made observations in the field and in his laboratory. As a result of these observations, he drew certain conclusions. That is the basis of science. Make observations.

I do not recall and have not read any of his works beyond the Origin of Species. I do not recall his thoughts on the relation between Natural Selection and Genesis.

The reason I entered what was certain to be a post that would be attacked is because I am rereading for maybe the third or fourth time On the Origin of Species. I wanted to learn the p[oints of attack to ascertain if there is any validity.

Most who “don’t believe in evolution” have never spent one hour in the field observing or have any real hands on experience with biological or geological science. That is forgivable but classifies them as ignorant

[Agamemnon]

What science did Darwin initially espouse when it came to how everything came into being?

Darwin's "science" was so laughable, his first book should probably be renamed "The Origin of the Specious."

Poor "bert" may not realize what stupidity he has hitched his intellectual star to, but here's what passes for the kind of "science" that forms "bert"'s presently impoverished worldview:

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes [i.e., blacks – ed.], as Professor Schaffhausen has remarked, (Anthropological Review, April, 1867, p. 236) will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." (Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, Chap. vi)

More drool from Darwin with which "bert", as a Darwin acolyte, we hope will not continue to identify:

"The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world." (Charles Darwin, 1881, 3 July, Life and Letters of Darwin, vol. 1, 316)

Darwin's contemporary and personal spokesperson, fondly named "Darwin's bulldog," Thomas Huxley, understood exactly where Darwin's "science" pointed:

"No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man.....it is simply incredible to think that.....he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites." (Thomas Huxley, 1871, Lay Sermons, addresses and reviews)

One hopes that upon actually taking time to read Huxley and Darwin "bert" won't continue to allow his worldview to be wedded to this clearly un-scientific dreck.

FReegards!