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Facebook Denies Shadow Banning, Receives Patent for Shadow Banning
The New American ^ | Thursday, 01 August 2019 | C. Mitchell Shaw

Posted on 08/01/2019 6:39:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Facebook has continually denied that it participates in the practice of shadow banning — a method of blocking a users’ posts or comments from everyone except the user who made the post or comment. But a newly granted patent shows that Facebook not only does practice shadow banning, but wants to protect — by patent — the method it uses for doing so.

Despite the fact that Facebook executives denied the practice in congressional testimony in April, the company was awarded a patent by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) earlier this month for an automated system that would “receive a list of proscribed content and block comments containing the proscribed content by reducing the distribution of those comments to other viewing users” while continuing to “display the blocked content to the commenting user such that the commenting user is not made aware that his or her comment was blocked.” A better definition of shadow banning would be hard to write.

And since Facebook would use the patented system to shadow ban “proscribed” (read: banned) content, one can safely assume that would include political speech deemed unacceptable by the social-media behemoth. After all, Facebook recently slapped down a post by this magazine’s parent organization, The John Birch Society as “hate speech.” That post consisted of the cover of the July 8 issue of the print edition of The New American. That cover showed a real picture of an illegal border crossing and carried the caption, “Immigrant Invasion.”

Though nothing in that post, the picture, or the associated article could be construed as “hate speech,” Facebook took the post down and penalized JBS with a 30-day ban on monetizing posted videos via ad breaks.

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1 posted on 08/01/2019 6:39:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cue Captain Renault.


2 posted on 08/01/2019 6:45:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...

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3 posted on 08/01/2019 6:50:17 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, I've run into this on FB by the leftist Commie pinko scabs. They even mined my posts from years ago to apply to me for not within the community standards. I got bans on top of bans where now I'm one post of being permanently banned.
4 posted on 08/01/2019 6:52:25 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think it was the caption.


5 posted on 08/01/2019 7:03:14 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would think a new category of anti-trust law should be opened up to deal with the growing menace of big info-tech companies like Google and FB. These people are engaged in defrauding the voting public and subverting our democracy, to say the very least.


6 posted on 08/01/2019 7:10:35 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Chilling to freedom. Similar to British soldiers pulling down handbills and smashing the printing press for Sam Adams and Tom Paine. Modernized.

Good luck to you.


7 posted on 08/01/2019 7:20:54 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Shadow banning should be very easy to prove. Not on an individual basis, but on a pattern basis. Do it once, okay. Do it twice, no proof yet. Do it enough and often, and there’s a pattern that easily proves it.


8 posted on 08/01/2019 7:27:58 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

How do you collect that data? If you try to use robots, they will block you. If you recruit actual people to do the data gathering, then everyone has to trust those people.


9 posted on 08/01/2019 7:57:38 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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10 posted on 08/01/2019 8:06:43 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: palmer
How do you collect that data?

Data collection is not the only way to have your data compromised. Data can be 'locked' from access and held for ransom.

And, with so many eyes and hands and methods of access to data, there is no such thing as secure data. I remember working at a telemarketing center where 'lists' were stolen and/or copied, by employees who also worked at other telemarketing companies. Those lists meant twice the money for the thief.

If it exists and there is money to be made, it's hackable and/or worth stealing. BTW, theft is not the only reason for getting at data; getting back at a boss or a company is also a big motive.
11 posted on 08/01/2019 8:07:25 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

What I meant to ask is, if you are trying to prove Facebook does shadow banning, how do you collect the data need for proof?


12 posted on 08/01/2019 8:18:56 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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Couldn’t you just use an algorithm like the ones they use?

I know that for myself, I felt FB really invaded my privacy. When I found out that based on my *likes”, for every “ like” the algorithm says one thing, and they deemed me “very conservative.”

Couldn’t the same kind of thing be done here? For every shadow ban, a tally goes in to the algorithm . I know this is oversimplified, but isn’t that along the line of how those work?


13 posted on 08/01/2019 8:25:37 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Seems to fly in the face of equally benefiting the public.


14 posted on 08/01/2019 8:28:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

Looks to me like FB has put in something to prevent the link to both the article and the patent page from being reached from a FB post.

Pretty damning itself that FB would prevent these links from working.


15 posted on 08/01/2019 9:46:20 PM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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Personally, and at zero cost, I shadowed banned f book after a slave auction in Sudan or some other islamic fun palace where the bids were done on a facebook group page set up for that purpose. F book did nothing about it fearing they would lose the halal goat burger advertising accounts or similar.


16 posted on 08/01/2019 10:53:01 PM PDT by rocknotsand (Rock. Not sand.)
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To: palmer
What I meant to ask is, if you are trying to prove Facebook does shadow banning, how do you collect the data need for proof?

Pardon my mistake. That prior response was meant for another thread.

What I really meant as my response to you, is the following:

Shadow banning should be very easy to prove. Not on an individual basis, but on a pattern basis. Do it once, okay. Do it twice, no proof yet. Do it enough and often, and there’s a pattern that easily proves it.
17 posted on 08/02/2019 5:24:07 AM PDT by adorno
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To: FamiliarFace
Couldn’t you just use an algorithm like the ones they use?

How do you get an algorithm into their service or servers? To put an algorithm into their sites would mean that they'd have to be 'forced' on them, through legislative processes. Could be done, but then, would they (Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc) be in charge of monitoring them?

What could be done is for a third service, a go-between service, that could be used for submitting articles/threads/responses/entries, and then watching them as the information flows back-and-forth between the social services networks and the 'in-between' service. Anybody that is a prospect for shadow-banning, could become a customer of such a service, and even government oversight could use such a service.

In any case, if enough people report that they've been shadow-banned, that might be enough to get government agencies involved for proper actions to follow.
18 posted on 08/02/2019 5:34:14 AM PDT by adorno
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To: FamiliarFace
I agree but the data collection is still problematic. You can't simply ask people to eyeball Facebook and send in their results. There are two problems: inconsistent collection because people won't all use the same procedure and criteria. Second because our opponents will send in crap pretending to be conservative and never experiencing shadow banning. That brings to mind a third problem, how to decide what is conservative and liberal without those same two problems.

There has to be automated software to collect the data for consistency. Then the central collection point needs a consistent scoring for liberal and conservative content producers. Then the software needs to evaluate the results from a number of content consumers to see if how much the content producers are not observable (shadow banned). There will need to be large number of the content consumers involved because only a small number will be searching for any particular produced content, or following suggested links to producers who are promoted (shadow promotion) and never getting links to sites that are shadow banned.

The simplest thing I can think of is a browser plug-in to track all the viewings of the conumers. There would be huge privacy problem, so there would need to be an anonymization process to strip personally identifiable info from the collected views. You might biew your brother's page, probably not shadow banned since he is not a major producer but identifiable.

That's a pretty big undertaking. Another solution is political. Require the major players like Facebook to provide all the viewing data to independent analysts who can look for the bias.

Finally there will be quantification issues. There will be shadow banning of all types of content, conservative and liberal. It will be hard to add up the amount of conservative content banned versus liberal content banned.

19 posted on 08/02/2019 5:46:39 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: adorno
What could be done is for a third service, a go-between service, that could be used for submitting articles/threads/responses/entries, and then watching them as the information flows back-and-forth between the social services networks and the 'in-between' service.

Your "forced" algorithms does not seem like a bad idea to me. It would have to be designed to detect tampering. Kind of like the centralized spyware/virus-monitoring that some companies force their employees to use.

The third party service sounds like an even better idea. The only challenge I see is how the third party service can effectively masquarade as real users so that the Facebooks don't detect those content viewers and game them.

20 posted on 08/02/2019 5:51:34 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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