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'Stop playing fast and loose': Welsh first minister attacks Johnson on no-deal Brexit
Sky news ^ | 30 July 2019 | SKy News

Posted on 07/31/2019 4:09:35 AM PDT by Cronos

Welsh first minister Mark Drakeford has told Boris Johnson to "stop playing fast and loose with our country" as the UK leader prepares for a no-deal Brexit.

Mr Drakeford added that leaving the EU without a deal would "decimate our agricultural and manufacturing sectors and risks ripping the Union apart"

The Welsh first minister made the remarks before meeting with Mr Johnson this evening.

The prime minister ratcheted up his game of chicken with the EU over Brexit on his visit to Wales, claiming it will be the fault of Brussels if Britain leaves the bloc without a deal.

Mr Johnson said it was now "their call" whether they wanted a deal or not.

...A Welsh government spokesperson said after Mr Johnson and Mr Drakeford's meeting: "The first minister repeatedly warned of the catastrophic impact Brexit would have on Wales and pressed the prime minister on what support would be available for Welsh industry and agricultural sectors - no details given about new or alternative markets.

..Helen Roberts, development officer for the National Sheep Association (NSA) in Wales, called on Mr Johnson to "stop playing Russian roulette with the industry, which he appears to be doing at the moment".

...Mr Johnson's declaration that it will be the EU's fault if the UK fails to secure a Brexit deal came after he clashed with the Irish prime minister over the controversial backstop in the pair's first discussions.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit
Wales now?
1 posted on 07/31/2019 4:09:35 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Does Mark Drakeford want to welsh on the deal?


2 posted on 07/31/2019 4:14:58 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Cronos

Here is my prediction. Trump will announce a trade deal that moderates the effects of a no deal exit.

And, before people yell that it will hurt the US consider how Venezuela sells oil to the US by first selling it to China. Consider how it is likely Brazil will transship US soybeans to China. China ships goods to Mexico and Canada for reimportation to the US as Mexican or Canadian. The US can solve the political problems by transshipping UK goods with a US label on them. Sure, it fools nobody, but it resolves the political issues.

The problem being solved here is that people who are buying the goods can not instantly switch to a different supplier because there is a significant cost to spool up supplies and a significant business-ruining time delay required.

Trump understands all of this and he will bend over backwards to help Boris.


3 posted on 07/31/2019 4:23:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

More hysteria from desperate remainers.


4 posted on 07/31/2019 4:31:23 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Cronos
Helen Roberts, development officer for the National Sheep Association (NSA) in Wales, called on Mr Johnson to ...

Asked about the possibility of civil unrest among sheep producers, ... she told BBC Radio 4's Today: "I think they will, I think it's time to come and stand up for ourselves and be counted."

Amazing, it's devolving into a situation of counting sheep.

5 posted on 07/31/2019 4:49:59 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

At least he’s not an “Indian Giver”


6 posted on 07/31/2019 5:02:56 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Well then, fast & loose it is


7 posted on 07/31/2019 5:07:44 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: C210N

They’re worried about the lower prices of New Zealand lamb


8 posted on 07/31/2019 5:19:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

*Yawn*


9 posted on 07/31/2019 5:20:24 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: C210N; Cronos

The UK exports a third of its total sheepmeat production. Almost all of this goes to the EU. The fear is that traditional hill farming based on sheep will disappear if EU tariffs end this market: and a large proportion of the national sheep flock will have to be destroyed, since finding alternative markets, even if possible, will be slow.


10 posted on 07/31/2019 5:51:24 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

Where is it written that Europeans will lose their appetites for British mutton?


11 posted on 07/31/2019 5:54:27 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: C210N

LOL!!! Now that’s hilarious...and apropos for Britain!


12 posted on 07/31/2019 6:28:36 AM PDT by gr8eman (Only the mediocre are always at their best)
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To: Winniesboy

We don’t seem to eat as much lamb as we used to over here, but it is often expensive, too.

Trump could probably reverse that by making a point of enjoying it and developing a new market for it over here, as we seem currently to get ours mostly from NZ—which doesn’t make a lot of sense. Far better to just ship it the shorter distance from the UK for at least the Eastern US market.


13 posted on 07/31/2019 6:39:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: gr8eman
Yes, and who will be put to sleep because of it?


14 posted on 07/31/2019 6:51:00 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Winniesboy

you’re joshing — why isn’t more of it consumed locally?


15 posted on 07/31/2019 8:30:04 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: bert; Winniesboy

ok, now I’m confused — it’s like Britain exports 1/3rd of it’s mutton yet 1/3rd of the mutton consumed locally is imported. Something deeper must be happening here


16 posted on 07/31/2019 8:32:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos
British, and especially Welsh mountain lamb has always been highly prized by the French, who are prepared to pay a premium price. The British consumer still buys primarily for price rather than quality, and therefore tends to buy cheaper imported cuts from the supermarket chains, mostly frozen lamb from New Zealand.

British lamb is usually slaughtered at 6-7 months. The French, again, prefer a younger and therefore more expensive animal.

Mutton hasn't been widely sold or eaten in the UK since the 1960s: but it's now making a small-scale comeback to the 'real food' and 'slow food' market.(ie eg me!)

See also Pay farmers to avoid cull of lambs after no-deal Brexit, union says

17 posted on 07/31/2019 12:33:43 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

interesting - so then in the event of Brexit no deal, the lamb farmers lose a large % of their export market and get undercut by cheaper imports at the same time?

A double whammy


18 posted on 07/31/2019 1:17:02 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

Yes. And lose their Single Farm Payment under the CAP at the same time (although the Government has said it will continue current subsidies at the same level at least for the first 3 (I think) years. What happens after that is anybody’s guess).


19 posted on 07/31/2019 1:45:12 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy; bert
Bert - as Winnies boy points out, the chief destination for export is France, not the rest of Europe (you can't find good mutton in Poland to save your life).

If the UK crashes out, then tariffs instantly come up -- I think 40%.

There'll still be a demand, but the price will increase. I'll guess the retailers will take a cut, so let's assume the price increase is 25%. Assuming some kind of price elasticity this will be there, so demand would fall by 20%. The worst thing could be that the consumers could find alternatives and be lost forever

20 posted on 08/02/2019 1:20:50 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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