Posted on 07/18/2019 11:37:37 AM PDT by Red Badger
Joe Biden, who was vice president when President Obama reportedly fixed everything wrong with health insurance in America by signing Obamacare into law, just this week dusted off his old bosss line at an AARP event, telling attendees, If you like your health care plan, your employer-based plan, you can keep it. If you like your private insurance, you can keep it.
That same line coming from Obamas mouth was awarded Lie of the Year by PolitiFact, but whats important is it pits Biden, the alleged moderate, against his socialist competitors who are demanding nothing less than Medicare for All and the elimination of private health insurance.
Of course, America was wondering what Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez thought of all this, and she replied that no one would be heartbroken to lose their private health insurance. Private health insurance is a for-profit business, which makes it a bad thing doesnt it?
.@AOC, asked about warnings from Joe Biden on Medicare for All, says nobody is heartbroken at the idea of losing private insurance.
People like their health care, they like their doctor, she says. But Id be interested in what the public polling on Aetna would look like.
Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) July 17, 2019
No, she wouldnt. She wants to eliminate the entire industry why would she care what the American people think?
This keeps being passed off as a truism, but the polling on private insurance exists and is surprisingly strong. Similar to people who hate Congress, but liking THEIR member, people tend to like their plans. https://t.co/6veylWs7Zx
Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 17, 2019
Example https://t.co/24ekN1MDyA
Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 17, 2019
She should speak for herself.
Ernestine (@SexyNurse0987) July 17, 2019
WRONG! AND POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT PRESUME TO TELL PEOPLE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT ANYTHING. Interestingly- support for MFA drops drastically when those being polled are told they would have to give up their private insurance.
joy moody (@juniormoody4) July 17, 2019
For the 842nd time. Y'all really want a second term for @realDonaldTrump, don't you? https://t.co/mx3w3dVPEL
reedgalen (@reedgalen) July 17, 2019
i absolutely love my employee provided insurance and i will take up arms if im forced to go to medicare for all, which is absolute trash https://t.co/j1uw4CGVBu
John (@John_Faker) July 17, 2019
My family has been kept afloat for 15 years because of our insurance.
AOC again showing her spoiled and privileged, bourgeois background.
And those two statements are not in any way related to each other.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
What right does some bartender from Queens have to take away my family's insurance, or anyone else's?
The arrogance is astonishing.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
Eliminating private insurance is an extremist, unpopular position with massive economic and health ramifications.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
This "squad" of freshmen all live in a privileged bubble.
They get access to top education, live in wealthy cities, and have been surrounded by like-minded individuals their entire lives.
They need to stop proclaiming what society wants and start understanding what society is
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
Go this route and you're going to lose the majority.
IN EVERY. SINGLE. POLL. The public is fine with making Medicare universally available, NOT with eliminating private insurance.
You talk about "little guys" but want to make our decisions for us.
Get bent.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
Let me spell it out for you: your Dem +60 district is a bubble.
The country is not comprised of college towns. This is a great way to lose the suburbs you just won in 2018.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
I encourage you to get off Twitter and TV and go tour the nation.
You'll find out pretty damn quick how unpopular that attitude is.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
AOC and Co get (deserved) defenses from most people because the president is a scumbag.
Then they go and say elitist bullshit like this and discount how clear majorities of voters feel because we're "ideologically beneath" them.
Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) July 17, 2019
Could that be the dumbest one yet? A woman who has never had to face a serious health or insurance crisis is going to tell the rest of America what it needs or wants? https://t.co/yUQYryxSkf
LastAmericanOptimist (@bpeithmann_) July 17, 2019
Clueless https://t.co/YtJNoOql4p
DanRiehl (@DanRiehl) July 17, 2019
‘medicaid for all’
Berniecare would cover custodial nursing home care, which Medicare doesn’t cover.
OAC should use her government health plan and have her face sewn on to her butt.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Constitutionally clueless AOC is exploiting low-information voters, trying to win their votes with promises of unconstitutional national healthcare imo.
More specifically, regardless what the misguided Roberts Supreme Court wants everybody to think about Obamacare and insurance mandate, the Roberts Court wrongly "overlooked" that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had clarified the following about so-called national healthcare.
The states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to dictate policy, regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate healthcare. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from Supreme Court case opinions made by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]. Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
"Obviously, direct control of medical practice [emphases added] in the states is beyond the power of the federal government. Linder v. United States, 1925.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." United States v. Butler, 1936.
Regarding healthcare insurance, justices had also clarified that regulating insurance contracts is not within the scope of Congress's limited Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), regardless if buyer and seller are domiciled in different states.
"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss. Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government that misguided AOC is unthinkingly promoting
Patriots need to finish the job that they started when they elected Trump president by doing the following.
Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT's vision for MAGA, but will also promise to surrender state powers that previous congresses have been stealing from the states back to the states.
And to make such changes permanent, patriots also need to support PDJT in working with the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.
Remember in November 2020!
MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great)
“Catastrophic-only coverage results in catastrophes.”
Catastrophic insurance is created to cover catastrophes. Catastrophic insurance will cover cancer as long as the person buys the insurance before the person gets cancer.
A person without insurance that develops cancer used to be able to qualify for the high risk state pools, but after 0-care they are gone now. If the person is indigent, there is Medicaid coverage.
So what’s the problem. You want crappy federal government insurance that will be paying for all those bureaucrats determining what drugs and treatment you can get? You like the government surveillance on your medical record? Turn in you guns if you have a psych diagnosis or the government doctor doesn’t like you.
Honestly, if you are going to rely on sh**ty government insurance, you should make every effort to stay healthy. You know, people on Medicaid actually had worse outcome than patients without insurance. So you get what you pay for.
I am heartbroken when it’s last call. She needs to go back to being a drink pusher.
A-hole On Crack, with her golden Congressional health care package, can suck raw sewage!
What is the purpose of insurance?
They want to take away your private health insurance and your 401k. Repeat and keep Repeating!
You may be heartbroken when they disallow your child life saving heart surgery.
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I have a son with brain cancer and a wife with kidney cancer.
Without their very good private plans they would be gone by now.
Change that to 75 and I will believe you.
The sooner you die the sooner you stop collecting Social Security and Medicare
There is no gov health care. The insurance comes from private companies.
Better yet let 65 yr olds out of Medicare.
It should be ‘optional’ With no penalties for not signing up or signing later............
Bernie’s a commie. Nothing he says can be trusted against reality...
Most people understand that the term "Gov Health Care" is a euphemism - a verbal shortcut - for health care performed by private companies who are reimbursed by the government with money extorted from taxpayers.
Most people.
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Thanks Red Badger.
My premiums more than tripled from 400 a month for a family of five to 1470 a month
From 2010 till now under Obamacare
Shes too important to carry a baby to term
AOC is wrong again...
What a presumptuous little bitch.
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