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To: tlozo

Pathetic, just pathetic to have abandoned “manual methods”. Imagine someone needing artillery support in a very bad way and their devices don’t work, or worse yet, have been hacked so fire is directed onto our own troops.

Maybe the navy best learn what a compass, sextant and navigation maps are good for too.


2 posted on 07/18/2019 4:28:30 AM PDT by redfreedom ( Setteled Science = Irrevocable Unmitigated Lie)
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To: redfreedom

Kind of like abandoning simple math as the calculator does it easier.


4 posted on 07/18/2019 4:33:44 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: redfreedom
Yes.....and the Army hopefully goes back to the good old land navigation systems with map and lensatic compass.

Now maybe Walmart and other retailers need to leach cashiers how to count change the old fashioned way.

6 posted on 07/18/2019 4:34:30 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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I recall reading where the KGB oh, I think that’s what they still call themselves, I have gone to manual typewriters at their headquarters to increase security of administrative functions.

I wonder if the US military or the US Uniformed Services have maintained their proficiencies in MF and HF Communications, Morse code (CW) is gone by the wayside but plenty of Old Timers l still know how to use it, CW might not be fast and it might not be efficient but when all else fails it is the mode that is going to keep Communications intact. I wonder if CW is going to make a comeback as well?

I wonder if the Navy and the Coast Guard still know how to navigate with a sextant? I don’t think they teach it anymore in fact, I think they might have all gone to electronic charting.


8 posted on 07/18/2019 4:36:23 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: redfreedom
Pathetic, just pathetic to have abandoned “manual methods”. Imagine someone needing artillery support in a very bad way and their devices don’t work, or worse yet, have been hacked so fire is directed onto our own troops.

Based on my contract work with the Air Force, it won't be long before in order to fire a weapon you'll have to insert your CAC card and log on to the device, hoping all the while that the all-eggs-in-one-basket network is still available, or that your card hasn't been locked, requiring a trip to the MTF to get it unlocked. Of course I'm being sarcastic ... but only a little.

10 posted on 07/18/2019 4:41:12 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: redfreedom

10 years ago who was Commander in Chief?


36 posted on 07/18/2019 5:52:54 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: redfreedom

I was going to mention about ship’s navigation also. And don’t forget to get a daily solar azimuth for compass correction due to magnetic poles wandering.


44 posted on 07/18/2019 6:11:31 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: redfreedom

That might just keep them from colliding with tankers and freighters.


56 posted on 07/18/2019 6:31:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: redfreedom
Maybe the navy best learn what a compass, sextant and navigation maps are good for too.

I thought I read somewhere the Air Force is going to bring back Navigators for many of their aircraft. They REALLY need to get back in the cockpits of the tankers. Thankfully, the B-52s still have their Navigator but I am not sure if they are trained in the old ways of navigating. I am pretty sure the B-1B Navs don't.

90 posted on 07/18/2019 9:41:25 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: redfreedom

USCG started pulling their chart tables off the bridge, even for bouy tenders.

Idiots.


95 posted on 07/18/2019 10:09:04 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: redfreedom

The Navy first needs to learn to look out the windows and notice the large oil tanker or container merchantman that they are about to ram.


99 posted on 07/18/2019 1:31:32 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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