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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 14 July 2019
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 14 July 2019 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/14/2019 4:17:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Fishtalk; RayChuang88; Alas Babylon!; rodguy911; a little elbow grease; chiller; CincyRichieRich; ..

FYI

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html - epstein

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So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn’t some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let’s take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people

We’ll also assume a goal:

(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you’re very disposable (see: DC madam), and it’s also not super lucrative. You can’t charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don’t need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you’re still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don’t even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she’ll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don’t really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn’t need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don’t want to money from non-pedophiles, or they’ll notice you’ve just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you’re extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren’t clients, they’re pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don’t invest in the fund, but it’s nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you’re ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There’s almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You’d want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can’t touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you’re extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren’t clients, they’re pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don’t invest in the fund, but it’s nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

I bet there’s a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thoughts-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html

The fact that Epstein’s fund is offshore in a tax haven — it is based in the U.S. Virgin Islands — and has a secret client list both add credence to the blackmail theory.


81 posted on 07/14/2019 7:04:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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To: patriotspride
Thanks very much bud!Lots going on the past week. A lot to cover and work at the same time but its doable. On another topic as slo Joe reaches out to every group ever invented by the dirty dems, especially his best buds, the black vote, theres this:
82 posted on 07/14/2019 7:04:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

Let’s see, Jeffery Epstein was on house arrest, yet he could fly in his private jet. My friend owns a rooming house and in it, a few of his tenants are on house arrest. They can’t even go out of the county, yet Epstein could fly in his jet. Amazing.


83 posted on 07/14/2019 7:05:22 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Fishtalk
I think he got his money the old fashioned way- Blackmailing pedophiles
84 posted on 07/14/2019 7:07:38 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: bray

All we EVER asked for is a leader who fights back!

The lies, innuendos, half-truths and smears is all the democrat/media/Leftists generally have.

It would be SO easy for Republicans to fight this, hard, and push it back in their faces, but...

They do not.

I’ve NEVER understood why...

Except they WANT it that way, for some reason. Perhaps to get in power, make millions $$$, be famous, but for sure most are phonies.

Reagan fought back. Hence HUGE support.

Trump fights back. YUGE support. Perhaps they could all learn something here better than the drivel Paul Ryno was selling...

But logic tells me the vast majority of the GOP is NOT on our side. We’re still conservatives, but we WANT leadership to fight, first and foremost. We’re not populists by choice.


85 posted on 07/14/2019 7:08:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Bubbas back in the news like it or not. He might be just a little bit upset.........
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Linda graham now on with the Maria the money honey. I just couldn’t take F.Chuck just too boring....


86 posted on 07/14/2019 7:08:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: GOPJ

I bet there’s a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

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From link:

Inside the main house on Jeffrey Epstein’s Caribbean island is an office which contains a steel safe that the disgraced billionaire was cautious of around staff, it has been revealed.

The contents of the safe are unknown but workers say it likely contained more than money because Epstein was so worried about it being accessed.

Speaking to Bloomberg on Friday, one staffer said that aside from a housekeeper, no one was allowed inside the office.

The house on Little St. James sits empty now with Epstein in custody.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242353/Staff-Jeffrey-Epsteins-pedophile-island-say-secret-safe.html


87 posted on 07/14/2019 7:11:33 AM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: Fishtalk

Mark wanted Cruz, when Trump was nominated, he said that it might be a bad choice, but no, be wasn’t a Never Trumper. He was unsure, but now Mark is behind him...


88 posted on 07/14/2019 7:11:41 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Amazing fact :)


89 posted on 07/14/2019 7:11:48 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Fishtalk
Good catch. IMHO,the doosh has spent the past year,he knew this would all hit the fan,it had to,Epstein was just too out in the open,so the doosh became a conservative!! He fooled Hannity, Rush,many conservatives who all lauded his newly discovered conservative credentials. Now we all see the game. The doosh played almost everyone.
90 posted on 07/14/2019 7:12:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: goodnesswins

Interesting story about our Gov.
I was knocking doors for one of our Forest For Oregon events the weekend after the election. I was walking past this house that had Kate Brown signs all over her house and cars. I was going to skip it, then thought what would this person think about our WWII Vets presentation?

I knocked the door and this woman answered it and I began talking about our event. She was interested, but said she had to go to their election decompression and celebration saying she was a Precinct Person and organized the town etc.

I acted like I didn’t know what she was talking about and continued on. Turns out the celebration was the next week and her and her husband came to our event and loved it. This method cuts across both Parties and will be a force here in Oregon when you can talk to the hardest of the hard core Dems.


91 posted on 07/14/2019 7:12:50 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Exactly! What worries me is fake docs,and drivers licenses that make them look legal.I wonder how far a trip it is for them to get even more fake docs?Best bet don't let them in to begin with.How can any American vote for a political party that does not want to protect its borders,its beyond me.
92 posted on 07/14/2019 7:14:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

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93 posted on 07/14/2019 7:14:33 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Deplorable American1776

He didn’t like Trump.

And I don’t like him for it.

Make your apologies to others. He is not anybody I admire.


94 posted on 07/14/2019 7:14:47 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Alas Babylon!
President Johnson saw a huge voting block if he would tailor a bill to force equality throughout the South which was divided racially.




95 posted on 07/14/2019 7:19:28 AM PDT by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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To: Qiviut

Maybe some hand picked FBI agents - (not the ones that assisted Hillary with destroying evidence) but ethical FBI agents - could go down there and secure the safe.


96 posted on 07/14/2019 7:20:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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To: LibertyWoman

I’m happy he’s spending his own money - but to get into the debates he has to have a certain number of ‘donations from fellow Americans’...

We should find out if a dollar qualifies and send him a buck. It would put him in the debates... which would work for us. The guy is such a jerk. I wish there was a way to get Soros to run.


97 posted on 07/14/2019 7:23:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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To: GOPJ
Great stuff bud and Zero Hedge has been a leader in Epstein coverage. They have numerous artilces on our boy Jeffy and how he did it.

As you say all that is necessary is for Jeffy to compromise the pedo billionaire the next day, explain to him he wants $100 mill for his offshore fund, which invests in very conservative funds since there is no reason not to, and that the compromised billionaire will never lose his principal just the proceeds of the interest.

It's a small price to pay for diddling where he shound not have been with all the wrong kids.

Epstein makes a pile and the guy is still available to intel departments if necessary.

98 posted on 07/14/2019 7:25:06 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Fishtalk
Yeah. I used to really admire Levin but that never-Trump faze of his revealed his true colors.

Levin lost me when he said the son of a Cuban born in Canada was a Natural Born Citizen of the USA. And he calls himself a Constitutionalest! Phony as a three dollar bill.

99 posted on 07/14/2019 7:27:49 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Alas Babylon!

Rough hunnert Larri.


100 posted on 07/14/2019 7:27:54 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( "The Owl" eats RATs for breakfast!)
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