Posted on 07/11/2019 9:23:02 AM PDT by topher
Full Title: Database showing lower New Orleans levee heights incorrect, officials say; overtopping unlikely
Officials with the Army Corps of Engineers are disputing data in a corps database that shows numerous sections of Mississippi River levee in New Orleans and points downriver fall short of the 20-foot height at which forecasters expect the river to crest Saturday.
Ricky Boyett, a corps spokesman, said late Wednesday that the corps’ New Orleans District office show levee elevations in the Lower 9th Ward at “between 20 and 21 feet.” He added that the agency’s modeling “does not show overtopping of the levees in the 9th.”
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I believe the US Army Corps of Engineers...
However, TS Barry may dump as much as about 2 feet of rain in the area of Baton Rouge and New Orleans...
Too bad the Federal Gubmint was shamed into spending Billions of Taxpayer Dollars into rebuilding Homes and Businesses below Sea Level in New Orleans after Katrina wiped them out.
Web could have relocated the entire City to higher ground for less money.
When New Orleans was founded in 1718, it was at a spot where the land along the river was deemed high enough to safely establish a city. Yearly spring floods replenished that land until the levee system got in the way. Those levees are the price we as a nation pay to keep the Mississippi River under control and to have a port city near it's mouth. That port city sacrificed it's ecological stability for the greater economic good of the entire Mississippi, Missouri, and Ohio River basins. Those areas would be paying much more for goods without the contribution of New Orleans as an international port. Those areas would have had much fewer jobs if their manufacturers had to pay the higher cost of shipping their products without New Orleans being around as an international port.
You talk about shame. The real shame is that there are many like you who fail to appreciate just how much of your life has been made better, richer, and more comfortable because New Orleans exist as an international port city near the mouth of a river basin which encompasses half of this nation. There is no "relocation" option here. None. Help the city that has done so much to help you. Stop complaining and be more appreciative.
Go to daily summary..
He saying with the Mississippi at a.high level already...
Said the 21 foot levees may be over topped...
depends where the storm actually goes
A city well below sea level and surrounded by large bodies of water. I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
You must not live here. The Corps doesn't believe its own database. "Officials with the Army Corps of Engineers are disputing data in a corps database that shows numerous sections of Mississippi River levee in New Orleans and points downriver fall short of the 20-foot height at which forecasters expect the river to crest Saturday. "Ricky Boyett, a corps spokesman, said late Wednesday that the corps’ New Orleans District office show levee elevations in the Lower 9th Ward at 'between 20 and 21 feet.' He added that the agency’s modeling 'does not show overtopping of the levees in the 9th.' "The Times-Picayune | New Orleans Advocate reported earlier Wednesday that a corps database, housed on the corps’ website, showed levees are below 20 feet in numerous locations, including spots in Bywater, the Lower 9th Ward and Algiers, as well as much of St. Bernard Parish. The database shows levee heights of between 18 and 20 feet in those locations. "The newspaper used that data after being told by the corps on Wednesday that the information in the database was reliable and up-to-date. "Boyett has not explained the disconnect between his remarks and the information on the corps’ website."
How much will we be made to pay for the Chocolate City this time?
The design height of the levees is 20, not 21 feet.
The river is at 16 feet today. The surge forecast was 20 feet yesterday, now reduced to 19.
Why is it so hard for people to get things right?
There are a lot of good people at FR, but also a certain number of racists. Some people on both left and right seem incapable of believing at the same time that a permanently dependent black underclass presents severe social problems and that the city of New Orleans is both a cultural treasure and strategically vital to national security and prosperity.
They want their world view to be uncomplicated, but this world isn’t like that.
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=RVA&issuedby=orn
Just link that goes with your post
Build a city below sea level. What could possibly go wrong?
Or how about this: DON’T build city below sea level (it wasn’t when it was built, btw). Render all agricultural, mineral, and industrial producers in the Mississippi, Ohio, and Missouri basins incapable of competing in the global economy.
How’s that work for you?
There’s always hype because no one want to be accused of not having given the warning. That said:
The river right now is a real problem, even on a sunny day. One downriver ship loses power or steering and rams the levee top, and the next you you have is a levee crevasse that makes the 17th St canal failure look like a lawn sprinkler.
Pumping is almost all to the lake, not the river. I thought everyone here knew that.
I’m personally more worried about the power because I now live on the North Shore. But my mom and others I care about are in NOLA — along with my job. No one but a fool ever turns his back on water around here.
Pardon me, are you calling me a Racist because I question spending good money after bad rebuilding homes in an area below sea level at Taxpayer Expense knowing full well it is a futile effort?
Maybe I just misunderstood what you were saying.
when I was there a few years ago, people said, we’ll be underwater in 90 years. AOC says we are doomed starting in 12. I don’t see the problem.
It flooded yesterday because no one is going to pay for a drainage infrastructure capable of pumping out three inches an hour.
I know all about the pump-to-the-river setup. That’s why I said “almost all”.
Actually, I had someone else in mind.
I’ll put you down as the one who doesn’t understand strategy, economics, and history.
How is three feet above sea level well below?
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